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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject:  iso: fury ias help  

ok...so ive got a lvl 30 fury druid and want to know exactly how much ias i need on my naga and grim scythe to hit max speed (4 fps..i think)

with lvl 5 werewolf, and 10ias from bloodfists....

i used an ias calculator and it came out that i needed 61 ias on my grim scythe and 91 ias on my naga for 4 fps...but every guide i have read has said to use a 6 shaeled naga (120 ias) and 4 shaeled grim scythe (80 ias).
Are these guides just oversimplifying or am i missing something

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject:  

i ran the naga through the weapon speed calculator and came up with the same number as you. so i guess 5 shaels and a 15 max jewel or something would be a better option. (didnt check grim scythe, just taking your word on it). only way i could see actually needed 6 shaels would be if you had lvl 1 werewolf and weren't wearing bloodfists.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject:  

Only the IAS from the weapon counts.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject:  

not necessarily. with little or no weapon ias and/or low lvl werewolf, off-weapon ias does help a bit
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject:  

waramp wrote:
i ran the naga through the weapon speed calculator and came up with the same number as you. so i guess 5 shaels and a 15 max jewel or something would be a better option. (didnt check grim scythe, just taking your word on it). only way i could see actually needed 6 shaels would be if you had lvl 1 werewolf and weren't wearing bloodfists.


well...if 91 ias is the right number...i could use 4 shaels, a 15 ias jewel, and have a spot open for an ed/max jewel

or

1 shael and 5x 15ias jewels
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject:  

15 ias jewel = lvl 31
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject:  

you need 6 shaels for 6 frame initial fury
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:22 am    Post subject:  

waramp wrote:
not necessarily. with little or no weapon ias and/or low lvl werewolf, off-weapon ias does help a bit


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The IAS off weapon is ignored in wolf form.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:31 am    Post subject:  

Actually he's right, non weapon ias does help, but to get to the faster frames you need impossibly high amounts.

So non weapon ias has no practical use.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:08 am    Post subject:  

Wouldn't that mean the Caddy would be socketed in different ways for more damage in high level fury druids, providing per example they use bloodfists?

I might be ignoring something totally obvious but 16060ias are useless in fury druids, why?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject:  

Best place to get answers on Druid speed questions.
Wereform Centralhttp://home.comcast.net/~thedragoon/wereformadvanced.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject:  

Non weapon IAS is worthless for all practical matters.

You need impossible amounts of it to hit the faster frames.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject:  

There's a situation for like lvl 12 maul druids or something like that where bfists help get an extra frame, but I guess that's different cuz we're talking about wolf form.

Anyway, yeah 6 shael is needed for max initial frame.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject:  

Thanks alot everyone...your input was very help...I'll leave this thread as it is incase anyone in the future has the same question
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