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LLD101 Low Level Dueling in 1.12
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Solartje
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 366 BNet Acct/Realm: Europe
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject:
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hi all
i had to register here to give some advice, as ive seen many errors and wrong assumptions
anyway a lvl9 smiter can kill; if u dont believe me , duell me, and post your findings here cant give any better prove then to duell u.
now what to use.
it is correct that u wont deal alot of dmg. and it takes time to kill, but hey at least your not a coockie lvl9, duells last longer, and u will win
(my setup is for the economy liga lvl9, so were not alowed to use dual mod charms or any jewels so...)
basic idea, thorns... wont work as good as defiance. really, i dont know how much they cut thorns, but thorns in pvp will do 1/10th of dmg, but even then ive calculated it and its alot less. tested some builds in open and this are my findings and also what i use
3 socket eth helm with 3 mana gems
sigons armor with mana gem (atacker takes dmg of 20)
usual lvl9 ama, (str, dex, etc etc) or that set amu with mana thing
2* ring (6energy, 10 mana, stats) or 2 nagels if u have enoug mana
shield ( 65ed 4 socket rondage with 4 skulls ) (atacker takes dmg of 32)
weapon : khalims for its spead like most say, but the uber weapon is a that unique (cant remember name) that has 33% chance to do open wounds. open wounds does ALOT of dmg in 1.10, and smite can give u open wounds.
gloves boots belt : sigon or unique gloves
charms life/mana, all the way
skills
smite, defiance maxed
dmg: ull do around 5life dmg each smite, and open wounds takes of a bit more then 10life. ull hit VERY fast and stun your opponent, so u'll almost wont take any hit. and if u take a hit, your 1000+ defence and 75 block will block most, and even IF they hit u, they'll get the atacker takes dmg of 60+...
sorry for the crap explenation, ill make the guide for my site, but im promised myself not to use tomuch time on my site, as im in last year of unversity, and i REALLY need to study :s. ill work more on my site after the exams and vacation. (start september; site finished okt-nov) and the pala smiter guide will be there to.
(ps i killed a lvl9 liga baba thats in 3the place with this pala, and i dont even use dual mod charms or jewels or anything)
lvl9 smiter, hurts, kills, and its cheap and one of my favourit non coockie lvl9'ers.
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Belarathon
Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 4577 BNet Acct/Realm: east nl
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject:
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i think gnasher i sbetter than khalim. and i think you're talking about crushflange which has 33% crushing blow not open wounds. and open wounds is based no character lvl so at lvl 9 it sucks. lvl 9 smiters are crushing blow all the way. the onl reason theyre good is crushing blow +stun and pretty good defense.
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meitou
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject:
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I could imagine why a lvl 9 sac din or barb lose to smiter 9 if they just do this toe to toe. But I guess the regular melee one could do better vs it if they run a bit, hit, run a bit, hit. Smiter's range is limited, 1 if with gnasher or crushflange. On ther other hand, military pick or flail is range 2 and 3. If a smiter go for better range weapon, he would lose the crushing blow.
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Jerkazoid
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 2902 BNet Acct/Realm: wscl
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:39 am Post subject:
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its what i do, lil more FHR, run to get ride of the swirlies.. , and use Shift + attack to get hits in first.
takes some practice though
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cshd
Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 62 BNet Acct/Realm: USEast SC NonLadder
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject:
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He means blood cresant scimitar
3-10 dmg
75ed
+15 ias
+15 life
+15 all res
33 open wounds
+4 light radius
req lvl 7
It gets the same speed as khalims and has nice stats
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VoicesLLD
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 7401 BNet Acct/Realm: Recovering WoW addict.
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject:
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cshd wrote: | He means blood cresant scimitar
3-10 dmg
75ed
+15 ias
+15 life
+15 all res
33 open wounds
+4 light radius
req lvl 7
It gets the same speed as khalims and has nice stats |
i never knew a -20 scimitar with +15 ias was the same speed as a -10 flail with +50 ias.
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cshd
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject:
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I meant that you get the same smite frames with both and 30 ias with sigon.
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GodHatesMe
Joined: 29 Feb 2004 Posts: 168 BNet Acct/Realm: USEAST
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject:
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so an efective lvl 9 smiter would have to use the gnasher for CB and OW?
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GODZ!
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Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 3623 BNet Acct/Realm: ECWK
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject:
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forget gnasher, it's too slow
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:55 pm Post subject:
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GODZ_llds wrote: | forget gnasher, it's too slow |
deaths belt + sash = ?
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Jayaz_Forteck
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 129
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:19 am Post subject:
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I figure using this thread was better than making a new one, so I'll ask my questions here:
1: are there any lvl 9 items that give hit freezes target? because though elemental dmg doesn't work with smite, apparently this does.
2: What armor is best, a 45-socket armor or sigons?
3: What boots should I wear, and why? I was thinking gorefoots.
4: Does anyone have a fast ctc amp weapon they'll trade? All I've got is a dirk, but it's average attack speed...
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:25 am Post subject:
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Jayaz_Forteck wrote: |
1: are there any lvl 9 items that give hit freezes target? because though elemental dmg doesn't work with smite, apparently this does.
2: What armor is best, a 45-socket armor or sigons?
3: What boots should I wear, and why? I was thinking gorefoots.
4: Does anyone have a fast ctc amp weapon they'll trade? All I've got is a dirk, but it's average attack speed... |
freeze target is not dmg though. your basically looking for something to use just in the ofbeat chance a person forget to have a deaths sash ready?
2) im not sure if your actually asking,, u want +45dmg for a smiter?
3) probably, but be on the lookout for rares with stats/life/fhr/res
4) id shop a scimitar fast, -20wsm and try for mechanics on it as well if u got the time
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Jayaz_Forteck
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 129
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject:
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Yeah, it would be cool to have around in case they aren't cbf, which may be the case, if they switch gear to duel my smiter. Also, do you know if hit slows target works with smite?
Ah, please excuse my typo, which is better, sigon's armor, or a 4-socket armor of some kind?
What's wsm? weapon speed man? hrm. and where would the best place to shop one be?
Oh, and one more question, I'm planning to use the imbue quest to get a decent spiked shield, what is the best lvl to do this at? (can I do it at lvl 9? I seem to remember a min lvl req back in 09)
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:56 pm Post subject:
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Jayaz_Forteck wrote: |
Oh, and one more question, I'm planning to use the imbue quest to get a decent spiked shield, what is the best lvl to do this at? (can I do it at lvl 9? I seem to remember a min lvl req back in 09) |
you need to be level 8 to complete the imbue quest. might as well imbue when you;re level 9.
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Jerkazoid
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 2902 BNet Acct/Realm: wscl
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:
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VoicesLLD wrote: | might as well imbue when you;re level 9. |
but since spiked shield is qlvl 11. it cant get "of deflecting" unless u imbue at Clvl 12 minimum
Jayaz_Forteck wrote: |
imbue quest to get a decent spiked shield, what is the best lvl to do this at? |
imbue it at Clvl 12 ... or13,14 if u want to get a chance at 11-20% single resistances
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