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JokerMWX
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 62
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject:
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I have him built in Hero editor, but want to test him. I tried to open a TCP/IP game but it did not work.
He can solo N and NM, and even killed up tp Act 2 Hell.
Lvl 30- Not rushed
Main skills used: Tornado and Spirit wolf
I choosed Spirit over Dire for the following reasons:
5 v. 3 wolves
1 pt can only go in bear
with cast over 90 can recast wolves very fast
Having wolves means that i will be in open or vs. casters. The wolves will have a passive resist all at 85%. Wolves get 5% for evry pt invested and is capped at 85%.
Helm: +2D/+3Nado/?? or +2 Sum/+3 Nado ( made into Lore)
Wep: Spirit
Ammy: +2Sum
Armor: Viper soc w/ P.Ruby
Shield: Rhyme
Gloves: Magefist
Belt: Caster w/ FHR & FCR
Rings: SOJ's
Boots: Sanders
Charms: Mana/FHR/FRW
20 S. Wolf
1 HOW
1 bear
3-6 Nado
Rest pre reqs and C. Armor
Nado dmg was near 200
Wolves w/ HOW hit around 350 each X 5( cool how they teleported to the next enemy)
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just shdw
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 3478 BNet Acct/Realm: US WEST [NL]
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject:
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wolves will die very fast : / even to below average llders and your nado dmg wont be enough to win a duel.
pvp is alot harder than killing monsters in the game
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JokerMWX
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 62
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject:
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just shdw wrote: | wolves will die very fast : / even to below average llders and your nado dmg wont be enough to win a duel. |
Having good FCR I can recast quick. Casters have low life, and only Necros and Hammerdins will be a problem. The 85% resist will be a problem for all others.
just shdw wrote: | pvp is alot harder than killing monsters in the game |
No....really!! Thats why I said he can still kill in Hell
With the Nado helm...dmg will be almost 300, and that will be for players who step too close.
It is a diffrent build, but being diffrent and applying skill is where you win.
That is also why I want to test him against live players.
P.S. People hated on fire Druids also.
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ropa
Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 41
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:00 am Post subject:
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You'll be able to recast wolves once before running out of mana, and wolfs do die fast.
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just shdw
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:01 am Post subject:
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casters will have 90% of the time more than 900 life and they will pretty much always have max block. it would take the wolves an eternity to kill them : / and you can leech of them.
but by all means try it and post feedback on how your duels went :p
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JokerMWX
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:
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ropa wrote: | You'll be able to recast wolves once before running out of mana, and wolfs do die fast. |
They will have 85% RESIST. Die fast from what , and why would I run out if mana from recasting once? I can have Insight on switch, and mana regeneration is good as is.
just shdw wrote: | and you can leech of them |
Your talking melee again. For a Druid to use summons he is in the caster class.
There has to be a way to test him in Single player.
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RJD2
Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 71 BNet Acct/Realm: USWEST
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject:
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there are many things that arent viable in pvp.
summons are meant to stack even in hld dueling. they are only used as a distraction and not for killing. there is no point to put any points into them. unless you use a tele staff your summons will scatter everywhere and leave u wide open. any melee will pick u out and u'll be dead in a second. your damage is too low definitely. i guess this means that you are hell rushed say u killed act 2 hell monsters. pvp and pvm is completely different. your 300 dmg will be nothing. the best u could do is kill low lvl pubbies nothing that is a real lld. so basically u could try a telestaff with lvl 1 summons because tahts what some lld windys do but you would be better off getting max damage possible with lvl 1 summons if you think u really need it.
another thing is that i dont believe you will reach 99 fcr with your gear choices. i believe you'll need about 10 more fcr in order to hit that considering you use a 35 fcr spirit weapon and your belt is 10 fcr. or i could be mistaken.
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Clops
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1842 BNet Acct/Realm: East Non-ladder only: sir_cyclops
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject:
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no offence but 200 dmg, 350 dmg
in most lvl 30 duels unless your a smiter or kicker with cb then u need upwards of 1k - 2k dmg to do anything and woopdeedo about your 85 res wolves, i guarentee u that they will die fast, and plz dont flame just shdw he knows 10 times more than ull ever know about lld
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rebellions_army
Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 350 BNet Acct/Realm: Indiana
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject:
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Quote: | +2 Sum/+3 Nado ( made into Lore) |
This is impossible, just so you know.
I also have to agree with everyone else, this build will never work. I commend you on your originality, but I use to own high level summons with my 18 zealot, and it was sub-par...at best.
And...
200 damage after pvp penalty is only, 33. Its gonna take you a looooong time to kill any decent character with 33 damage.
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just shdw
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject:
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JokerMWX wrote: | ropa wrote: | You'll be able to recast wolves once before running out of mana, and wolfs do die fast. |
They will have 85% RESIST. Die fast from what , and why would I run out if mana from recasting once? I can have Insight on switch, and mana regeneration is good as is.
just shdw wrote: | and you can leech of them |
Your talking melee again. For a Druid to use summons he is in the caster class.
There has to be a way to test him in Single player. |
all chars will do full dmg to your summons. so even if they do have 85% res all, they will die in 1-2 hits from any caster.
the person your dueling wont target the wolves anyway, becuase they wont scratch them, they will just aim for you, and you will go down fast if your wearing pure summoning skill gear
edit: thanks cyclops , and rebellions is right too.
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Waramp
Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject:
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just shdw wrote: | all chars will do full dmg to your summons. so even if they do have 85% res all, they will die in 1-2 hits from any caster. |
was just gonna say that. ele dmg will still destroy wolves with ease even with 85% if they dont get the pvp bonus.
i love original chars just as much of the next guy (im pondering a lvl 43 voice of reason freezealot right now, and im the only person in d2 that i know of with a zerkadin), but i dont know if this will work. i do wish you all the best of luck though
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pikablue
Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 47
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject:
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i dont know about other lld, but 1 bliz from me will put you on the floor 1.6k damage and -70% mastery 1 hit is all it takes
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Hellfireclanx
Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1198
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject:
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won't work, don't waste your time
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