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geeber
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 95 BNet Acct/Realm: USWest, Non-Ladder, Softcore
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 11:30 am Post subject:
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I want to make a lvl 29 zon. That's all i know. Can anyone help me out: bows, javs, or both. gear, skills, stats(well, thats usually easy). If anyone knows anything about lvl 29 zons please post here as it will be greatly appreciated, thanks
-geeber
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Jerkazoid
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 2902 BNet Acct/Realm: wscl
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:41 pm Post subject:
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not to sound like an ass but u wont really go anywhere in LLD if u dont learn to do this on your own..
could u atleast attempt the build yourself?
please do 1/2 hour of research and post your ideas, plan, skill point and gear choices.....then we can critique and offer advice.
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geeber
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 95 BNet Acct/Realm: USWest, Non-Ladder, Softcore
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject:
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wow...i just spent 10 minutes writing up my build and then it didnt post..............wtf....i'll try again later too sick of typing
_________________ Furious-LLD, lvl 18 zeal paladin
Damage: 158-742
AR: 1370
Def: 162
Blocking: 75%
Life: 481
If you don't like these stats, I don't care. He's a work in progress.
~*Geeber_4
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geeber
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 95 BNet Acct/Realm: USWest, Non-Ladder, Softcore
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject:
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this is the brief version:
max charged for lvl 29, 1+ power strike(synergy), 1 jab, 1 guided and all prereqs, 1 crit strike, 1+penetrate
main gear(im kinda poor, esp on LLD gear): 5soc ashwood with 5Xiths and sols, sanders boots/gloves or bloodfists, biggins, twitch, angelic ring/ammy+rare ring, bladebuckle belt or 24FHR rare belt(less str) and some rare javs that i need to get(not sure what mods to look for) and a shield...sigons? pelta? umbral? not sure
As always any advice would be appreciated.
_________________ Furious-LLD, lvl 18 zeal paladin
Damage: 158-742
AR: 1370
Def: 162
Blocking: 75%
Life: 481
If you don't like these stats, I don't care. He's a work in progress.
~*Geeber_4
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:24 pm Post subject:
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charged strike will usually only have no more then half the bolts hit the player... so your dmg is 1/2 what ud anticipate, Then assume 50-75% res and youll see what im talking about. also Charged strike is slow and interuptible.
if all u can afford is Iths or sols,, use all sols in the ashwood... but u must realize u loose out on any max dmg u try to equip if you pump min so much.
the best bet for a lighting build is something like +3jav 30% ias magical maidens. tough to find though.
for the jab build probably wanna go with Eth harpoons or Eth cerimonials
imo you really need some of the best gear possible to earn the respect of good zon dueler now, otherwise she just wont cut it vs others players
look into your other options.
sure the twitch is reall good, but biggens? u got peasent crown or dmg masks now, or even lore helms
sigons shield? think about whitsans or "Rhyme" shields.
String of ears or blade buckle can be a tough choice.
sojs
ammy rare (eye of eltich, mahamio curio..?)
remeber a charge strike zon doesnt need AR at all. and guided im certain doesnt need it either
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geeber
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 95 BNet Acct/Realm: USWest, Non-Ladder, Softcore
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:16 am Post subject:
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thanks for the advice. can you explain what you mean about sols vs. iths? what happens if i put enough sols into the bow to max its min higher than its max...?
_________________ Furious-LLD, lvl 18 zeal paladin
Damage: 158-742
AR: 1370
Def: 162
Blocking: 75%
Life: 481
If you don't like these stats, I don't care. He's a work in progress.
~*Geeber_4
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Delybrio
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 697 BNet Acct/Realm: USEast Nonladder
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:08 am Post subject:
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If Min dmg > Max dmg, then Max dmg = Min dmg + 1
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:07 am Post subject:
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wich means once u surpass your max dmg every +1 min dmg = +1min and +1 max
so although u could have Six carnage jewels..u could have Six +9dmg sols
with a low range weapon,, lets say weapon is 20-30 6 sockets
the carnage = +90max = 20-120 (avg 70)
the sols = +54min dmg = 74-75 (avg 74.5)
now if u do this u must realize that u need to use all Min dmg in the rest of your gear once u take this route
example 20-30 weapon
u add +50 min dmg and +30max dmg
dmg = 50min +20 - 30max +30
70-60 so game sets max = min+1
70-71
as u can see your max dmg is not added at the end, the two are kept seperate and the min dmg has gobled up your max, ud have to waste alot of max dmg to finally break out of the min dmg pool u created
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geeber
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:40 am Post subject:
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ohh ok thanks for the info. I managed to find a few sharp grand/large charms(max dmg+ar) so do you think it would be better to just go with 5Xith if i use a bow? i dont think i'll be able to find all that many min damage charms with low lvl req(i thought +3 min GC is lvl req 63...).
_________________ Furious-LLD, lvl 18 zeal paladin
Damage: 158-742
AR: 1370
Def: 162
Blocking: 75%
Life: 481
If you don't like these stats, I don't care. He's a work in progress.
~*Geeber_4
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject:
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geeber wrote: | 5Xith if i use a bow? find all that many min damage charms with low lvl req |
correct, ud have to find +1min Red large charms of sustance and those are statitically worse then the Sharp Lc bc u can get +6max..
the min dmg build only work if u surpass the 50% mark..
since carnage is +15,, the 50% mark is 8.5 and +9min dmg sol runes do that and its realy easy to get min dmg to be better then max.
but with charms the min dmg preffixs suck... ud have to abandon the idea of using +max dmg charms and just stick with life.. or get +1min red LC of sustance..
since u have some decent max dmg charms u might as well just go for the max build as that will work out better
the iths make sence if your lvl 15.. but since your 29 get +15carnage jewels. or atleast start saving them along with a hel rune to clean out that bow when u do find em.
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geeber
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject:
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I don't know what your realm is, but do you(or does anyone) know what +15 max jewels cost to obtain?(say, in bulk of 3+)
Also, would it be ok to try 5Xsol on the bow and just stack my inventory with +res, ar, life, mana, elemental dmg(etc.) charms? Which would work better overall for LLDing with people who will probably have good res, but maybe some DR too?
Again, thanks
_________________ Furious-LLD, lvl 18 zeal paladin
Damage: 158-742
AR: 1370
Def: 162
Blocking: 75%
Life: 481
If you don't like these stats, I don't care. He's a work in progress.
~*Geeber_4
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:22 pm Post subject:
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geeber wrote: | I don't know what your realm is, but do you(or does anyone) know what +15 max jewels cost to obtain?(say, in bulk of 3+)
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Non ladder its Pgems for them, Post an ISO in the Trading area and make sure u got currency
ladder will be a bitch.. non many of us exist, and the price is up in the hel-ko rune area.
geeber wrote: | would it be ok to try 5Xsol on the bow and just stack my inventory with +res, ar, life, mana, elemental dmg(etc.) charms? |
yeah thats fine... it would be a waste to wear a +10 GC when it would not even break through the +54 min ud already have.. so just other charms.. . but your dmg will be lower then what it could be with all +Max dmg jewels and +Max dmg charms
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geeber
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject:
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i have about an inventory full of +max charms and i was wondering what everyone thinks about a lvl 29 jabazon vs a lvl 29 guided bowzon? thanks for any additional advice.
_________________ Furious-LLD, lvl 18 zeal paladin
Damage: 158-742
AR: 1370
Def: 162
Blocking: 75%
Life: 481
If you don't like these stats, I don't care. He's a work in progress.
~*Geeber_4
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geeber
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject:
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sorry for the double post...
_________________ Furious-LLD, lvl 18 zeal paladin
Damage: 158-742
AR: 1370
Def: 162
Blocking: 75%
Life: 481
If you don't like these stats, I don't care. He's a work in progress.
~*Geeber_4
Last edited by geeber on Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:36 am; edited 1 time in total
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Phyre
Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 287 BNet Acct/Realm: US East Ladder SC
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject:
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If anyone wants to see a killer CS zon (level 30) look up Atalanta on East Ladder. I've seen it go toe to toe with equal level or higher zealers, WWers, and kicksins that are good to very well equipped.
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