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Phyre

I'm curious as to what the maximum reasonable AR that I can expect from zealers in melee gear would be at levels 29 and 35. If anyone could give me a rough estimate that would be great.

Actually, if someone could throw out an estimate on the damage range on zealers at 29 and 35, that would also be helpful.

VoicesLLD · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject:

well, in the 3 times iv remade my zealot, and the 4 different weapons iv used (knout, superior knot, superior eth knout, +2 conc superior divine) iv generally ended up with around the same dmg, 1800-2100. my ar has jumped from between 4k to 5.2k.

right now im using the divine scepter and have around 1900 dmg and 5.2k ar. at first i thought it was a mistake to remake him with more strength to use the divine, but now he seems to be doing fine.

you ar really depends on how many points you invest into zeal as well as charms. and your dmg depends on how many points you put into conc/sac as well as your charms. if you have an inventory full of 3/20/15s, youll have lots of both ar and dmg.

as for a 35 zealot, i couldnt help you there. iv never made one. but if you;re going to go that high, you might as well goto 38 and use shaftstop.

krajee · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 6579 9.68 Silvarrr

Basically its putting points into fanat, and using the extra points from conc into sac. You could look into about 6000 ar and possibly 2.5k damage. Guillaumes face becomes avaliable...ias jewels...

Belarathon · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject:

if a zealer is norm rush probably 2100+ damage, 4500+ ar, hell rush will get 2700+ damage easily, and 6000+ar just as easily

diet_sushi · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject:

Are u positive or is this with charms? my zealer does 2.1k dmg 3k ar but i have to heavily rebuild him since i didnt put enuff pts into zeal

Knarl · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:41 pm Post subject:

My 29 zealot has around 1.7-1.8k max dmg, and 6.7k ar or so.

diet_sushi · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject:

Hmm so lower dmg is aight high ar should cover for it?

B[x] · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:46 pm Post subject:

Confucius says: If one does not hit, there is no point to one's high damage.

VoicesLLD · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject:

actually i think i said that. whats the point of doing high dmg, if you cant land the hit?

diet_sushi · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject:

So whats a good amount of points into zeal 10+ or all pts into zeal? then rest into conc

VoicesLLD · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:51 pm Post subject:

heh no. you want atleast 4.5k ar. so after you have all your gear and charms on, put points into zeal until you have 5 swings and 4.5k ar atleast. you can put more if you want, but 4.5k is standard, and will make you hit averagely on all melee except defensive type builds.

Zabo · Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 30 0.00 Silvarrr

VoicesLLD · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:16 am Post subject:

thats a different meaning all together. usnig a cannon ball to kill a fly is another way of saying "over doing it".

Belarathon · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:39 am Post subject:

if i never hell rushed my zealer i would probably put everything to zeal until it was max, and then the rest to conc, because i think conc gives 15% dmg, while sac gives 12% dmg, and zeal gives 6%? dmg with ar too, it would give aboutjust under 2k dmg probably, but over 6k ar. but maybe i am biased just because while i was making my zealer the flavour of the month on east was defence builds

Phyre · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:20 pm Post subject:

I have no intention of making a zealer, incase anyone was getting the wrong idea. In fact, I'm looking to kill zealers, specifically ways to tweak my kicker to kill zealers of up to equal level. My kicker is 35, so that is why I asked for estimates on 35 zealers.

I know kickers are generally considered a weaker class, but I want to see if it can be done. I despise zealers because I see so many of them.

So, from the looks of it the highest estimate is around 3k potential damage and 6-7k ar from a 35 zealer? Or were those estimates for a 29 zealer?