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[Jerkazoid]

im interested on you, friends, families,... enemies
thoughts on the candidates for the states 2008 election from outside the US

[Torrent]

i dont think anyone outside of america really likes/cares about us anymore. bush has screwed up our reputation so much with iraq. i dont think it even matters how educated someone is on the subject anymore.

so ill say...obama pwns, watch the daily show, hillary stop sniping, mccain will win it all because so many americans are generally irresponsible white people who fear those afro 'mericans.

[Mr_Bilson]

to be honest i dont really see much about your elections. there is maby one article in the paper every couple of days and a five min segment on the news when something happens but that is about it


hillary seems like a bitch though

[Wank]

Can't vote (missing the age req by a few months) but I'm personally hoping for Ron Paul.
Women are to emotional to be a leader of a country (in my opinion), so we can rule out Hilary that way, other then the fact shes a stinking Democrat.
But I kinda like Obama, but if he gets elected pretty sure he'd be assassinated rather swiftly.

[Goky]

[dragonfire_god]

Ron paul or bama mama is gonna win imo, Not sure who I will vote for but I would rather have anyone then Hilary cause shes a nut.

[Waramp]

from outside the us, and with all my knowledge coming from the daily show, i think you're either gonna have your first black or your first female prez. personally i think i'd vote for obama because you know there will be a scandal with hillary caught with some young intern's face between her thighs

[Mr_Bilson]

[Torrent]

[Wank]

[Jerkazoid]

i dont think Ron Paul has any chance anymore, McCain is the front runner for the rep's. probably McCain and Obama (im 80% on Obama getting the dem nomination) for the elections.. and im 65% sure that the "moderate" McCain will get the presidency.


as much as i blame W for his inferiority issues with his father and conservative opinions to take on established scientific law.... its really the administration (now mostly dissolved) that really "runs" the country. SO when america elects a prez' its "wrong" to not think about the others who are with them.
During 2000-200X executive privilege had/has been over used in the Bush administration, this is simply Senior people being "on message" who have worked close for a long time; people such as Rumsfeld, Rove, Cheney, Gonzales, and David addington running things by manipulating "executive privilege" so W could further the Grand parties interests.

you guys can check this out and cross check it with the work of Rice + a man named Philip Zelikow zelikow was an individual who is credited with the preemptive doctrine focusing on getting an excuse to invade iraq, it became public in 2002. ironicly he was also made director of the 9/11 commission, a perceived, huge conflict of interest, partially believed to be semi-cover up for the failings of the FBI and people, like Condi Rice. )
If you feel like this is preeeeechy it is,, it IS "activist" propaganda, but it is not, (let me repeat this), NOT made up in its basic facts.
the Project for the new American century is REAL. it is an open militaristic proposal and shift towards an even stronger hawkish agenda.
signed in 1997, check out the names. it was not a secret, it was a large well documented, manifesto, open and candid about its policies. It really took off in 2001, for good reason some would say, and others would say it was without that reason, and poorly directed.

you can also hear more about the rise of the Neo-cons and what it means for America for the past 15 years and what it might mean for the future


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[Waramp]

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=10594

[lld_newb]

personally, i hear that Hillery or her people were talking about how we never heard Obama's name except from these elections, and if she wasn't our first lady, no one would know who she was either -_-

i wish Al gore would have ran again, just to say i told you so ><

i hope Obama turns out to be blacker then black, and he is just acting like a uncle tom

[Knifer]

[Dao Jones]

Let's just dispel the "Ron Paul is a crank" myth, shall we? While I personally have no interest in seeing him become President, his theories are actually rather reasonable, if you stop listening to media hype. He wants to return us to a gold standard (so that our money is actually worth something tangible), limit government size (classic Libertarianism), and a few other things that, while a bit unrealistic (abolishing Federal tax), are not by any means "crazy".

As for McCain versus Obama (Clinton is done - she's the only one that doesn't realize it yet), I would put my money on Obama. This election is going to be about "change": change from the Bush era, change from our shitty international standing, change from all sorts of things. Obama figured this out early on, and staked his entire campaign on it; Clinton came late to the game, and her efforts to position herself as "an agent of change" fell flat fast. McCain is campaigning on a platform of "more of the same"; this will appeal to a large portion of the country that fears change and likes status quo, but in reality this electorate is galvanized to go in a new direction, and McCain isn't it.

Students of politics will point out that it's practically inevitable that the country swings 90 to 180 degrees every 8 years. That's the nature of American politics: we're fickle, and we always start thinking the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.

This election is the Democrats' to lose, make no mistake. Unless Obama seriously chokes between now and November, he will be our next President come January. McCain, decent guy though he may be, just doesn't have a chance. Hell - his own party can barely stand him, and his traditional "base" (moderates) is swinging for Obama like Barry Bonds hitting homers.