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Puddles
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject:
One Idea that I need comments on... Subject description: Reusing This Thread... |
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I had this idea while I was refreshing my mule in a duel game. My new ideas were Anti-Melee Tanks. I need comments if this might work or not.
The Anti-Melee Tank:
Level 29 Necromancer (I call it a Tank, but I figured out that it was already thought up of... http://www.lld101.com/viewtopic.php?t=41502)
Skills:
Amplify Damage - 1 Point
Teeth - 1 Point
Bone Armor - 8 Points
Corpse Explosion - 1 Point
Weaken - 4 Points
Bone Wall - 18 Points
Bone Spear - 1 Point
Bone Prison - 6 Points
Clay Golem - 1 Point
Gears:
Helmet: 3 socketed Crown with Sol runes (Damage Reduced By 21)
Armor: Rockfleece socketed with Sol rune
Weapon: 2 socketed 3 to Bone Armor Bone Wand or Grim Wand (for the appearance) with Dexterity + Strength jewels and 3 to Clay Golem Wand on switch
Shield: 3 socketed Tower Shield with Sol runes (Damage Reduced By 21), 2 socketed 3 to Bone Armor Necromancer Shrunken Head with Sol runes or a Whitstan's Guard socketed with a Sol rune (Damage Reduced By 7)
Belt: String Of Ears (Damage Reduced By 15%)
Gloves: Bloodfist
Boots: Sander's Riprap
Amulet: 1 to Necromancer Skills Amulet with stats or Angelic Wings
Rings: Stat rings or Angelic Halo
Anyone think this would work?
Last edited by Puddles on Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:02 pm; edited 12 times in total
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krajee
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject:
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Circlets have an inherent level requirement of 16. A 20ed jewel will add 2-4 kick dmg with greaves on.
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Roy
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject:
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You'll get more damage with a 3 Ammy helm than a Martial Arts helm anyway. If you don't use Crushing Blow, you have no choice but to make it a TS build. And if you go with a TS build, you're probably better off making it a maxered build with the norm attack finisher.
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breakbeatz2 wrote: | 2-15 isnt possible on level 18 jewels. He must mean 2 x 15 maxers |
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Puddles
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:37 am Post subject:
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krajee wrote: | Circlets have an inherent level requirement of 16. A 20ed jewel will add 2-4 kick dmg with greaves on. | Forgot about what level requirement a Circlet had xP. Thanks for the information about the damage.
Anyone know what level requirements a Deadly Circlet has?
Edit: Would Flawless Emeralds or Amethysts be better than Enhanced Damage jewels?
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Torrent
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:39 am Post subject:
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Mr_Puddles wrote: | krajee wrote: | Circlets have an inherent level requirement of 16. A 20ed jewel will add 2-4 kick dmg with greaves on. | Forgot about what level requirement a Circlet had xP. Thanks for the information about the damage.
Anyone know what level requirements a Deadly Circlet has?
Edit: Would Flawless Emeralds or Amethysts be better than Enhanced Damage jewels? |
+1 shadow disciplines is possible on a rare/magic helm at lvl 15 if thats an option, idk i didnt really read your first post.
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Sad
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 756
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject:
Re: Might this work? Subject description: Sorta bored of the Cookie Cutter builds. |
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Mr_Puddles wrote: | I've been thinking if this might be viable for level 15. So, here it is:
Helmet: 2 socketed Magical 1 to Martial Arts Circlet socketed with 2, 20 Enhanced Damage jewels
Armor: 4 socketed Gothic Armor socketed with 2, 20 Enhanced Damage jewels
Weapon: 3 socketed Blade Talon with 20 Enhanced Damage jewels
Shield: Pelta Lunata socketed with a 20 Enhanced Damage jewel
Belt: Sigon's Wrap
Gloves: Sigon's Gage
Amulet: Angelic Wings
Rings: Angelic Halo
Boots: Sigon's Sabot
I was wondering if a pure Enhanced Damage jeweled Kicker might work since there's no Crushing Blow. Emeralds or Amethysts might work better . Was wondering of this idea after I was playing around with extra skill points on my level 18 Tiger Strike Assassin, and I put a point into Dragon Talon. It surprised me that I was able to do 750 Dragon Talon damage with 3 charges of Tiger Strike. |
ed on the weapon is useless for kickers. and like krajee said, 20% ed jewels add very little damage, if your going for a damage build go with Amethysts. Also, I think that Deadly Circlets are lvl 18.
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Torrent
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject:
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Sad wrote: | ed on the weapon is useless for kickers. and like krajee said, 20% ed jewels add very little damage, if your going for a damage build go with Amethysts. Also, I think that Deadly Circlets are lvl 18. |
I thought 1str = 1ed, and perfect amyths are 10 str. Why wouldn't jewels work
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krajee
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject:
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Torrent wrote: | I thought 1str = 1ed, and perfect amyths are 10 str. Why wouldn't jewels work | 1str = 1str and 1ed = 1ed. Look at the kick damage formula and the regular weapon damage formulae - there's a difference.
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fuh
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:48 am Post subject:
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I'm %95 sure that a lvl 9-15 kicker would suck w/o cb :/
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Puddles
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject:
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Okay, figured out that the Crushflange Kicker is better. Changed the topic.
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dragonfire_god
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject:
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Leap at level 15 is pretty much useless, theres not really any team duels at level 15.
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lld_newb
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject:
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Go in sticky and look at the bottom or under "other information" category, there is a skill planner and gives you %'s and dmg rates, use it instead of asking how much the leap will do
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Sad
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject:
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I dont see any benefit of this build. No damage, No Bo, just knockback? wouldnt a PH sin be alot better? they have knockback AND damage...i know my hammer sin was a good team dueler.
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Roy
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject:
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I would never advocate making an LLD that can't kill a random Sigon zon in a pub duel game. But this one can't.
Sad's right - just make a PH sin if you really want a support character. Or a cleansing smiter with Holy Bolt.
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breakbeatz2 wrote: | 2-15 isnt possible on level 18 jewels. He must mean 2 x 15 maxers |
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:18 am Post subject:
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If you want a leaper whos effective in battle, here is my suggestion:
10 leap
10 throwing mastery (for 1 handed throw which you will be using often as your main attack)
1 double throw (your secondary attack, when you don't need a shield)
rest of points into double swing (synergy for double throw)
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I'd aim for getting high damage throwing spears with +1 combat skills (for leap) and knockback, and perhaps IAS. Try to get 3 of them, 1 for your shield switch, and 2 for your double throw. Knockback on your spears would definately add to the annoying Leap effect. I do not recommend eth-repair items for any kind of thrower.
Then I'd use max damage jeweled gear.. 3os breastplate (low str + no slowdown effect), 3os 3leap helm, and 2os bone shield. Probably 3x Grandcharms with faster run/walk and mana, and have the rest be large charms with damage and stats (3max/xxAR/5str or dex). Angelic rings and amulet of course, but don't bother with the saber or armor - they suck.
It'd be a tossup between cowking boots (80 life on barb) and gorefoot (+2 leap).. but for uniqueness I'd do gorefoot. If built properly this barb should have great killing power as well as knockback and lvl 16-17 leap.
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