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Torrent
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject:
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This looks extremely fun to me. I didn't spend a lot of time writing this, so please don't spend a lot of time trying to help me out.
Gear
Helm: 3os Grand Crown with 3x 15/15s
Armor: Eglitched Peace Ornate, for crit.
Gloves: IK Gloves for str and def.
Belt: IK Belt, again for str and def.
Boots: Sander's Boots for str and ar.
Ammy: Angelic for life/ar.
Rings: Angelic for life/ar.
Weapon: Perfect upped Bonesnap, with a maxer in it.
Charms: 40x 15 lifers
I haven't abandoned my 29 smiter, but I want to be able to fight casters as well, and casters are impossible to kill with a smiter. So I figured another dueler isn't such a bad idea. xD
Skills...I know I should max Might. What about Vigor? Should I invest as many points in it as I can and then put into charge, or scrap it and put as many as I can straight into charge? And is Meditation worth using 3 skill points for? I don't have a problem with mana potting, but if Medi is good with just one skill point then I'd rather that.
Last edited by Torrent on Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:14 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Weaj
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject:
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Resistances
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Torrent
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject:
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charms? =\
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Weaj
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject:
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Think of a way to get resistances, I was just pointing out what you didn't mention at all.
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Torrent
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:
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Weaj wrote: | Think of a way to get resistances, I was just pointing out what you didn't mention at all. |
Yeah I know, and thanks, but thats still my answer...I like the gear the way it is, so charms are prolly best bet. Kinda ridiculous that I forgot it tho.. =P
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Roy
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject:
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Combat skills will work better than Offensive Auras.
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breakbeatz2 wrote: | 2-15 isnt possible on level 18 jewels. He must mean 2 x 15 maxers |
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Torrent
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject:
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Roy wrote: | Combat skills will work better than Offensive Auras. |
Might would give 30ed per level...or do you mean for the attack rating?
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Weaj
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject:
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Torrent wrote: | Roy wrote: | Combat skills will work better than Offensive Auras. |
Might would give 30ed per level...or do you mean for the attack rating? |
Might gives +10% per lvl, charge gives +25% per lvl and +skills do not add synergy, only the base points in the skill does.
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Torrent
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject:
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Weaj wrote: | . . . +skills do not add synergy, only the base points in the skill does. |
ah didnt know that, ty. thought that was just for +theskill items, not +skilltab and +allskills.
ok, so no points in vigor.
20 Might
1 Smite
9 Charge
1 Prayer
1 Cleansing
1 Meditation
look good?
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Puddles
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject:
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Torrent wrote: | I haven't abandoned my 29 smiter, but I want to be able to fight casters as well, and casters are impossible to kill with a smiter. So I figured another dueler isn't such a bad idea. xD | If I were you, I'd have some kind of weapon to Charge with on switch sincce I saw a Cleric kill a level 30 Cold or Fire Sorceress with a Ethereal Upped Bonesnap before. Also, he told me that he did 800 damage per Charge.
Torrent wrote: | And is Meditation worth using 3 skill points for? I don't have a problem with mana potting, but if Medi is good with just one skill point then I'd rather that. | Use a +1~3 Meditation War Scepter or a Insight weapon.
Torrent wrote: | Gloves: IK Gloves for str and def. | Most Chargers use Bloodfist, but you can go for Immortal King's I guess.
Edit: Remember that you're able to get 41 skill points at max with Normal~Hell Rush. Why stop Charge at level 9? You could put 19 Points into Charge at level 30 with 1 skill point leftover (My level 29 Charger with no gears/charms except for a regular Bonesnap did 2.5k damage).
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Torrent
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject:
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Mr_Puddles wrote: | Torrent wrote: | I haven't abandoned my 29 smiter, but I want to be able to fight casters as well, and casters are impossible to kill with a smiter. So I figured another dueler isn't such a bad idea. xD | If I were you, I'd have some kind of weapon to Charge with on switch sincce I saw a Cleric kill a level 30 Cold or Fire Sorceress with a Ethereal Upped Bonesnap before. Also, he told me that he did 800 damage per Charge. |
If I did that I'd have absolutely no attack rating. Pure chargers are more fun anyway bc of the crazy high dmg, and bc I can use the two IKs, an ornate armor, and upped Bonesnap with high str reqs. Smiter's str will be 65 for Barbed shield.
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Torrent
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:49 am Post subject:
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another idea...since all those life/res charms would be uber expensive, a 45max/45res helm would work. of couse, thats expensive too. is it worth using one of those and losing out on the extra life from circlet?
and thatd mean id hell rush to get to 75 res, so skills would be:
1 Prayer
1 Smite
19 Charge
20 Might
with a medi scepter/whistan's on switch.
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Puddles
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject:
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Think a easier option is if you put a point into Salvation instead of Prayer . In my opinion, you should use a Spirit shield for more +skills into Meditation.
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Torrent
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject:
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Mr_Puddles wrote: | Think a easier option is if you put a point into Salvation instead of Prayer . In my opinion, you should use a Spirit shield for more +skills into Meditation. |
Well I'm not putting any points into holy shield so I'll need Whistan's for good block...unless I can find a +medi +holy shield scepter. And why would I put a point in Salvation if I'm using Might for damage? I don't really want to change that. I guess I could use it to stack vs fohers or something?
edit: i was thinking the 1 into prayer would work when i had meditation on, but i guess it wont make much of a difference
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fuh
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:16 am Post subject:
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imo u'll have a big mana problem unless u're planing to mana pot since u're not using eth insight rune staff or eth partizan insight
if I were u I'd aim for these options:
helm option1: peasant crown
helm option2: vis/60-80life/2os circlet
amy option1: 1pally|2pcomb/40-60life/50-90mana (if u can get good ressts from charms)
amy option2: 1pally|2pcomb/50-90mana/10-15Ares (if u dont have good ressts)
amy option3: angelics
ring option1: 1xxar/5-9str/3-5dex/70-90mana
ring option2: 1xxar/70-90mana/ressts
ring option3: angelics
I wouldnt use double angelic rings tho.
ps: I think potting is cheap so thats my 2 cents ^_^
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