LLD101

[Peekz]

I like using my hammerdin, but I've got desynch down prety well, and that might be why. I heard that pnb necros can be good, and I actually have a friend with a level 42 necro that can almost kill my level 89 hammerdin, if I don't teleport. What do you think is the best LLD char?

[DDRFreak]

very common debate. hammer/bone necro. Knarl has best necro i believe, and some guy (im sure everyone else knows) has a hammerdin that can (did more than once?) beat knarl.

[SoaringSquirrel]

There is no best LLD char. A trapper beats a FB or lightning sorc sorc (with tele as well), a sorc beats a necro, a necro beats a trapper. The biggest problem a necro faces is a slow attack with limited mobility, while every other character either has either a fast attack or good mobility. On the other hand, he has a wide array of defensive and offensive skills at hand to put to use, more than any other LLD char, which more than makes up for the slow attack/mobility problem.

In the fight between a bone necro and hammerdin, if the necro uses good bone wall placement and fires the spirits (or spears) accurately, he can take out even the best hammerdins 90% of the time.

On east, IIRC, Bel's old necro was undefeated (or nearly) by the other top LLDs at the time.

[Arcane Killer]

You have to say which level you are contemplating. A bs nec can't be the best lld at lvl 18 considering it wouldn't be able to use bs. O.o

[Ehhh]

[Hellfireclanx]

[Inexorable]

[Hellfireclanx]

nope. They are short ranged, if you know how to duel a hammerdin you will almost never get hit.

[TacoBell]

I agree that a well played character can fight a hammerdin without being touched. I know a few people who can defeat his hammerdin without getting touched but they don't abide by lld101 rules.

[SoaringSquirrel]

Hey, the LLD poison zon is ownage, especially since she got GA, don't make it sound like she sucks. So far the only people I've lost to using her were LLD godlies that I couldn't/could barely beat with KoM-Anri to begin with! P.S. I want a reduel vs Defenestration since she's had the GA remake.

At level 18, a (hellrushed) bone necro is still the strongest LLD, and the only characters who would give them much trouble are fissure druids and bowzons, and that's only if he doesn't recast armor and wear hotspurs.

If you'd like, Ehhh, I can set up a LLD hammerdin on USEast who you can test out against some of my LLDs (provided someone doesn't already have some LLDs made on open, which would make things a lot easier). That way we can finally see how west duelers measure up against east and vice versa, too, and I'm sure we've all been dying to see that fight!

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Ehhh's hammerdin is norm rushed.

[OutlawHeaven]

HFCX, not to mock your trapper, but my hammer was able to get a draw with your trapper at one time...

Heh, i even saved the ear...

[Hellfireclanx]

you can't win every time, but most of the time my trapper will win against hammerdins. It also depends on which of my computers I'm on ><

[Moritz]

imho u cant say whats the best one, because it always depends on how good you can handle your char. really powerful ones can be hammerdins/trapsins/chargers/hybridamas/necs, but as squirrel said, some chars are simply better vs a certain char type, whereas they suck vs a diferent char type... really depends on how good u are with your char.

[NuB]

I'm gonna look a fool for asking this but.. hey :S

People keep banging on about a desync charge. I understand what it IS more or less, but how do you do it?

I can end this debate for u... My CS ama is the best LLD in the world, ever, well, she is to me only prob is smiters and some hammerdins (mostly due to dual spirits magic abs and the mdr from the viper >.< i think )

[Hellfireclanx]