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Torrent
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:15 am Post subject:
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MortisNostre wrote: | HiV.Positive wrote: | the ias of bfist dont work on druids
only the wepon ias works is why
i know its gay... |
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wfg-dude
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:03 am Post subject:
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HiV.Positive wrote: | the ias of bfist dont work on druids
only the wepon ias works is why
i know its gay... |
Where did you get your info?
And what happened to the filters that used to turn words like "gay" into "happy" or whatever it was.
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krajee
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:13 am Post subject:
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HiV.Positive wrote: | the ias of bfist dont work on druids
only the wepon ias works is why
i know its gay... | It's these types of comments that make people think you're an idiot. You may think they're perfectly acceptable, but if you open your eyes, they're not.
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progknowsys
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject:
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MortisNostre wrote: | HiV.Positive wrote: | the ias of bfist dont work on druids
only the wepon ias works is why
i know its gay... |
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Yes.
It has always been that way with fury. Weapon ias is the only way to gain swing speed.
EDIT: with the exception of + to werewolf.
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Torrent
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject:
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progknowsys wrote: | MortisNostre wrote: | HiV.Positive wrote: | the ias of bfist dont work on druids
only the wepon ias works is why
i know its gay... |
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Yes.
It has always been that way with fury. Weapon ias is the only way to gain swing speed.
EDIT: with the exception of + to werewolf. |
That's all true, except everything you said.
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progknowsys
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject:
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Torrent wrote: | progknowsys wrote: | MortisNostre wrote: | HiV.Positive wrote: | the ias of bfist dont work on druids
only the wepon ias works is why
i know its gay... |
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Yes.
It has always been that way with fury. Weapon ias is the only way to gain swing speed.
EDIT: with the exception of + to werewolf. |
That's all true, except everything you said. |
Have you ever played a fury druid? Or are you just another stat site monkey?
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Torrent
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject:
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Let's end the quote pyramid. It is true that weapon ias is better, but it doesn't mean that off-weapon ias doesn't work at all. Now if you're talking about effectiveness, then weapon ias is obviously better. If this is what you meant, you should have specified anyway.
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MortisNostre
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject:
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sorry prog, your just plain wrong. As torrent alluded to, off weapon ias has very little impact, but it does factor in.
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dainbramage
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:55 am Post subject:
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Torrent wrote: | That's all true, except everything you said. |
Fuckin' vouch.
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wfg-dude
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:11 am Post subject:
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progknowsys wrote: | Yes.
It has always been that way with fury. Weapon ias is the only way to gain swing speed.
EDIT: with the exception of + to werewolf. |
IAS from gloves, armor, jewels, etc ALL count as far as I know.
When you guys say "off weapon" what are you talking about? You must be talking about the switch weapon... doesn't that ONLY count if you switch to it? When I hear "off weapon" I think of assassins and barbs using two weapons at the same time so I'm confused.
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Aqua
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:48 am Post subject:
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wfg-dude wrote: | When you guys say "off weapon" what are you talking about? You must be talking about the switch weapon... doesn't that ONLY count if you switch to it? When I hear "off weapon" I think of assassins and barbs using two weapons at the same time so I'm confused. |
"Off weapon" refers to stats or mods that come from items besides weapons. Ie: On kickers, +%enhanced dmg only affects kick dmg if it's off weapon, or comes from helm/armor/gloves/boots/rings/belt/ammy/etc. ED on any weapon, including primary or secondary claws, will not add to kick dmg. I hope that was clear enough.
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OutlawHeaven
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:05 am Post subject:
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Fury IAS comes only from your weapon and the first couple skills in werewolf. Try using a weapon calculator and putting in like 1000 off-wep ias; it has no effect.
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Chewie
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject:
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OutlawHeaven wrote: | Fury IAS comes only from your weapon and the first couple skills in werewolf. Try using a weapon calculator and putting in like 1000 off-wep ias; it has no effect. |
Sorry, but this is incorrect. There are many instances where off-weapon IAS can boost a fury frame. For example, go to the weapon speed calculator in the sticky, and input a Druid using Fury with a Naga that has 50%IAS and note the attack speed. Now add 20% off-weapon IAS and notice the change in attack speed.
It may not be the most practical example, since a fury druid would never use a setup like that, but it shows that fury is nevertheless affected by off-weapon IAS in some cases.
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MortisNostre
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject:
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everything i stated in my original post is correct, including the impact of the 10ias from bloodfists. This isnt up for debate.
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Destructoclaus
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:
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I vouch for off hand IAS effecting it.
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