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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject:  My first vlld tiger sin
Subject description: updated 05/07/2007 posted the itamz <3 ... feedbacks?
 

first of all i?d like to thanks for the help on "The "any use for this?" thread " with the jewels i?ve been finding/rolling from andy.

eh.. here?s the gear

Armor: 15% Superior Ancient Armor 4os
Helm: 15% Superior Crown 3os
Weapon: 14% 3ar Superior Blade Talons 3os
Shield: 15% Superior Gothic Shield 3 os
Gloves: Bloodfists
Belt: Deaths
Boots: 10 fhr/ 15 ar / +1 dex (temp - looking a +3 dex one)
Rings1: 79 ar/ 2 dex / dr 1 / 7 mana
Ring2: 73 ar / 2 dex / 4 energy / cold res 19% / fire 5% / psn lengh red by 25%
Ammy: 20ar / 4 str / 5 life / 10 mana / cold res 17% / mdr 1

Swap: Hel?d Sigons shield and crushflange mace for pre-buff

6x 15 life Lc?s
2x 14 life Lc?s
2x 12%fhr Gc?s (+1 max dmg / 19 ar)
rest i?ll fill up with +3 dex/str lcs till i find better ring/ammys

Hell rushed
2 bos / 9 tiger / 9 claw mastery
48% fhr bp

str = ?
dex = max block
vit = rest

ok
so i was wondering... should i sock all the gear with 9+ maxer / -15% req jewels so all gear gets almost the same str req as -60% req ancient armor = 40 str?
if so, are those jewels expensive? (in HR?s)
the best roll i got was a 4 min dmg/ 8 life / 8 cold res / -15%

well thanks again for all the help


edit: i?m going to travel right now... -_- might log on in like 3-5 days.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject:  

- You want to use Pelta Lunata for your shield
- With your set up, there is no point to prebuff because it won't change your attack speed
- Your rings/ammys are pretty good already, use 15 life lcs instead of str/dex because 3stats = 9life
- For the armour, try and aim for 9max/-15's
- You might want to switch to using a 3s 15%ed mask so you don't need to use a -15req jewel

The rest is pretty good Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject:  

dont you need deaths sash/gloves with lvl 2 bos and no ias bts?

http://www.lld101.com/viewtopic.php?p=123306&highlight=#123306

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject:  

Armor: 15% Superior Ancient Armor 4os
Helm: 15% Superior Crown 3os
Weapon: 14% 3ar Superior Blade Talons 3os
Shield: 15% Superior Gothic Shield 3 os

I was looking over your gear and it seems as if you're going for a str build (60 str+)

if so dependent upon ias from gear / skills,
you might want to look into scissors katar. more damage, more reqs.

if you're not going for the str build...
the crown and gothic shield are a lot of str to be pumping

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject:  

so...

- a pelta would be better cause of the block?
- to hit the next ias breakpoint, i should get BoS lvl 4 (lvl 3 + prebuff) or a 10% ias Blade talons, right?

i?m kinda perfeccionist =( , that?s why i wanna use the str/dex lc?s.
hm... i guess i should use the equip i have right now and remake when i get better stuff.

thanks for the tips everyone Very Happy

ps: sorry for my poor english
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject:  

cranes wrote:
Armor: 15% Superior Ancient Armor 4os
Helm: 15% Superior Crown 3os
Weapon: 14% 3ar Superior Blade Talons 3os
Shield: 15% Superior Gothic Shield 3 os

I was looking over your gear and it seems as if you're going for a str build (60 str+)

if so dependent upon ias from gear / skills,
you might want to look into scissors katar. more damage, more reqs.

if you're not going for the str build...
the crown and gothic shield are a lot of str to be pumping


That is all wrong.

Don't get 60str on a tigersin, big waste...

Gear:

-15%ancient with 4x max/-req jewels
-15%ED 3 socket blade talon /w 3x max/ed jewels (get atleast 1x jewel with -req on it to bring the str req and dex req down to 42)
-pelta for shield with a max/ar jewel
-3 socket mask /w max/ar jewels (DO NOT GET MAX/ED)
-2x 80+ar/stat rings
-7+stat ammy, with AR or life or mana for icing
-bloodfists
-deaths belt vs chars that have cold dmg, otherwise use i find that hsarus boots + belt give a nice AR bonus as well as some life

charms:

don't use str/dex lc's.....biggest mistake you could make. max stats on an lc at lvl 9 are 3. Assassins get 3life per 1 stat point. Thus, these charms are equal to 9life. At lvl 9, 15life large charms are available to you. Fill your inventory with these, leaving space for 2x 12fhr/35+AR grand charms in order to hit the 48fhr BP (you have 30fhr from bfists).

skill layout:

9TS
4BoS
7Claw mastery

stats:

str: enough to wear gear
dex: JUST enough for max block with pelta
vit: any left over
energy: none

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject:  

FudGe wrote:

skill layout:

9TS
4BoS
7Claw mastery


This will vary depending on how much you want to spend/your preference.
Look at CDM's link in his thread.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject:  

Visual Tactics wrote:
FudGe wrote:

skill layout:

9TS
4BoS
7Claw mastery


This will vary depending on how much you want to spend/your preference.
Look at CDM's link in his thread.


I've been using vlld ts sins since early 09, and believe me the most effective and cheapest setup is:

9ts
4bos
7claw

/w a ed/max'd 3 socket blade talon and bloodfists.

Of course, if you can get a bitchin' eth/rep amp/ed/ias/2socket btalon then that would be amazingly awesome.

The benefits of using 4bos and bfists over 2bos and deaths is superior.......30fhr,10ias, 40life,5min dmg

over

30ias with some dinky little res.

Any smart person will choose bfists.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject:  

You lose AR and damage with 4bos.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject:  

FudGe wrote:
I've been using vlld ts sins since early 09, and believe me the most effective and cheapest setup is:

9ts
4bos
7claw

/w a ed/max'd 3 socket blade talon and bloodfists.

Of course, if you can get a bitchin' eth/rep amp/ed/ias/2socket btalon then that would be amazingly awesome.

The benefits of using 4bos and bfists over 2bos and deaths is superior.......30fhr,10ias, 40life,5min dmg

over

30ias with some dinky little res.

Any smart person will choose bfists.


Lvl 4 bos, Blade Talons with Bloodfists = 8 fpa
Lvl 2 bos, Blade Talons with Bloodfists = 8 fpa

So, there is no point having lvl 4 bos with that set up.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:33 am    Post subject:  

There are 2 ways to hit 7 frame

bloodfists + 10ias claw + 4bos

deaths + 2bos

The bloodfists route is better.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject:  

resurrecting this thread...

i rolled 2x jewels
#1 4-8 dmg 17 ar - 15 req
#2 3-9 dmg +some resist

what would be the best place to put these?

i?m thinking on putting #2 on pelta, but i dont know where should i put #1
15% ed blade talons or ancient armor(socked with 1x 4-7 dmg -15 req).
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject:  

I would save them until you have all/most of your jewels, and then socket them in.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject:  

yeah save the -req one untill you have 3 more like it. if you put it in before you have the others you might accidentally pop something else in on accident. it'd be a shame to waste a jewel like that because you dropped a plain 9 maxer in the same ancient.

the other one would be fine in a pelta. dont waste good jewels like that on a white blade talon. wait untill you find a really really good 10ias/eth/repair bt.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject:  

kk thx ^^

i guess i?m putting on armor

need only 2 more to "finish" my sin :~

btw i?m veeeery careful on socketing items
... since i somehow duped a Ko (wth) socketing an hoto too fast

edit: OMG.. where should i put a 14 maxer?
hm.. maybe wait for 2 more and sock on helm?
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