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Which is a better weap for blade fury sin
Eth honor lance (25% ds) 458 max damage
12%
 12%  [ 1 ]
Eth Bonesnap (40% crushing blow) 495 max damage gemmed with ed jewel
87%
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject:  What weapon? and 1 question
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does crushing blow and ds work for blade fury?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject:  
cb yes ds now
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject:  
"On striking" procs work with blade fury. Luckily for you, CB, OW and CS/DS are all on striking procs. Contrdicting Clops, yes CS/DS DOES work with blade fury.


As far as your weapon choices go...

Why would you use an honour lance? An eth martel de fer will do far more damage, but if you're going to use an MDF you may as well use an upped bonesnap for the extra juicy damage.

If you're after crit, I'd recommend an eth insight partizan over honor.

Between an eth insight partizan and eth upped bonesnap, I'd have to go with the bonesnap. You're looking at a 500 average damage weapon using a top-end upped eth bsnap and a nice jewel.

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EDIT: Also keep in mind that 2-handers deal half the damage of a 1-hander. An eth honour naga plus a max jewel'd atsod will give decent damage (~160, compared to the 250 equivalent of an upped snap), but also lets you block.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject:  
dont forget about the dmg and ar bonus from claw mastery. a godly eth claw is probably your best bet for this build
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject:  
cheapest und best choice is eth insight partizan..
imo i would go for bec de corbin for guso looks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject:  
ar isnt required and niether is ias/fcr so use the highest dmg wepaon possible...but id say.... use eth partizan insight on one side then have bonesnap or claw/atsod on switch also on a side note i dont think ds works with blade fury either...but im sure that cb does
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject:  
ar definately does matter, it just doesnt show on the char screen. blade fury has the same attack rating as normal attack
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject:  
no...it works sorta like smite there is no ar just a block factor sp tested
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject:  
The Arreat Summit wrote:
Blade Fury doesn't use up durability of weapons, thus qualifies for etheral weapons.
Blade Fury will attack constantly with 6 frames per second. It does not work with Burst of Speed or any other increased (or decreased) attack speed.
Blade Fury is indeed dependant on your attack rating although that's not displayed. Check your chances of hitting a monster with a normal attack to determine your chance with Blade Fury.
Blade Fury does not work with pierce or exploding arrow effects.
Blade Fury works with effects on striking, but not on attack. Therefore, Curses and other effects can be triggered very fast.
Additional skillpoints only yield negligible damage increase which is not further modified. The 3/4 of your weapon, however, benefit from all damage enchancers, e.g. the Claw Mastery (if the weapon is a claw).


sorry, but i take the arreat summit's word over yours Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject:  
waramp wrote:
The Arreat Summit wrote:
Blade Fury doesn't use up durability of weapons, thus qualifies for etheral weapons.
Blade Fury will attack constantly with 6 frames per second. It does not work with Burst of Speed or any other increased (or decreased) attack speed.
Blade Fury is indeed dependant on your attack rating although that's not displayed. Check your chances of hitting a monster with a normal attack to determine your chance with Blade Fury.
Blade Fury does not work with pierce or exploding arrow effects.
Blade Fury works with effects on striking, but not on attack. Therefore, Curses and other effects can be triggered very fast.
Additional skillpoints only yield negligible damage increase which is not further modified. The 3/4 of your weapon, however, benefit from all damage enchancers, e.g. the Claw Mastery (if the weapon is a claw).


sorry, but i take the arreat summit's word over yours Wink



the arreat summit, again wrote:
This aura causes the Paladin to shine with an inner, holy light. This light is an anathema to the undead, summoned as they are through the machinations of the Prime Evils. The aura carries with it the essence of life and the strength and purity of the Paladin's convictions.

Effect: Damages and does knockback to the Undead. Ignores Physical Resistances and Immunities Of Undead Monsters.


This Skill works on super unique Undead Monsters (Griswold, Radament etc.) but not on bosses.
Steal Life/Mana items work well with Sanctuary against immune to physical undead monsters; as long as they have positive drain effectiveness. (See Monsters Section.) Sanctuary does significant damage against undead compared to other auras, because it ignores the %50 Damage resistance which nearly all undead monsters have in Hell diffuculty. (Level 1 Sanctuary %150. Level 20 Fanaticism 373/2=186.5)


I'm rather sure that's NOT how sanctuary works :p.


However, if we look through the wonderful sticky about LLD information, then click on the BF info link, you'll find the various things that work with BF. BF uses normal attack ar. BF uses normal attack damage*0.75. BF works with "on striking" procs. Which include CB, OW (both at half effectiveness) and CS/DS.

Waramp makes a good point about claw mastery and claws. You're hurting for off-wep ed on a BF sin. One advantage of going with bonesnap is that every point in strength gives you 1.1% ed. Do the maths, see what'll give you the most damage.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject:  
i dont understand your point about sanctuary? it gives you increased dmg to undead
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject:  
I was trying to point out that the Arreat Summit is often inaccurate.

Sanctuary is bugged so that its enhanced damage to undead portion doesn't work at all. Of course, the AS fails to mention that.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject:  
dainbramage wrote:
I was trying to point out that the Arreat Summit is often inaccurate.

Sanctuary is bugged so that its enhanced damage to undead portion doesn't work at all. Of course, the AS fails to mention that.


Have you even made a sanctuary paladin? I have, and yes it works as intended and how its stated on arreat summit. <3 +1000% dmg to undead.
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