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[Meegz ?]

I personally like knouts so i can use conc when i go out of mana and i pair em with sanders gloves for a better bp than a naga on my conc. if i were to remake, which i will be when the jewels are gathered, i will go for a shael/shael/4xmax'd naga and probably an honor naga for offhand (that ds is just too secksi)

if you want a bva, i suggest finding a +ww helm. then atod and artisans/squid light armor w/ maxers for most chars, a high def eth/rep ornate and eth/rep grimshield for bvb (or good zealots), and a 2nd weapon for offhanding against ppl you wont need block on.

[Username]

Ok thanks so far guys, o and i can take scrrenshots but my dialup can never host them : /

[wOOt]

imo peace > most armors all around.. cuz of low price and 2x maxer life lp / mp just adds like roughly 200max dmg or so.. and is million times more expensive..

[Meathead]

i'm also making a ww barb.
and i need help too.
im wondering if i need to put a point into battle cry.
it looks pretty useful.
-dmg and -def.
but it takes 2 skills

[Username]

So how many points should i have into 7 into bo ? that seems a bit much i just shoped an armor with +67 to life and some ehanced def but i think i jsut might use peace, also i got a 7% mana steal naga shouldi keep it in his stash?

[Hades]

leach is very nerfed in pvp now, so don't bother with a mana leach ring/wep. And bo Is a very useful skill, Heck something that boosts both your mana and life? 2 very very important things for a WW Barbarian.

[wOOt]

[Username]

So whats so great about peace? the fhr and crit strike? cause i got one in linked mail or something it does about 167 def i guess he could use that i got honor naga and a grim sheild but griem shield only does 40% chance block so i duno, shuld i use uped bloodfist ? or should i use something like ik so i can have 20 more str to mess with ? and boots i cld use gob toes?
so for skills i now figure i into all leading to ww, 1 into all then 7 into bo , rest into axe mastery? hows that sound ? ...yet to find a good helm though

[wOOt]

as much points into bo as possible, 1 into battle commands for extra +1 skills, increase speed 1, increased stamina 1, iron skin 1 and allresists 1.. ofc all prereqs to ww 1 point and 1 point into ww.. rest should b imo used into mastery..
try makin peace into superior mp and it gets nice deff.. and + its light arm.. +2 critical with battle command is 3 to critical strike wich gives u ~3x% more critical + 19-20 from ure mastery that means u will b doing double dmg every 2 hits in theory. as shield i would go for rhyme grim shield for cbf/block/allresi/manaregen and upped soled/max jwld swordback hold for bvb.

[Username]

alright but is increaded stamina and speed? seems kind of uneeded,besides that sounds good

[Username]

Ok i think this is it sorry for this huge long thread, with den and izzy and radament
lvl 1 preskill for ww and lvl 1 ww
lvl 1preskill for bo, lvl 9 bo, lvl 1 battle command
lvl 16 axe mastery

hows this sound? im not really worried about gear right now the correct build is what worries me most, i can always change gear later but cant remove and add skills...

[Meathead]

ok so. i made my barb.
this is his gear.

Weps-Honor Zwei(not good range)
spirit zwei(not good range more life and the 2 skills helps with frw and ar and resistance very useful vs casters and the mana helps SOOOO much with ww)
2x shit spirits for bo
life tap charge wep for pubby's
shael'd bloodletter(havent really discovered what this is best for yet )

sheilds-
rhyme grim sheild
up'd sworback
atsod

armor-
peace mage plate

belt-
i have a soe in stash.. but i've never used it.
i usually use ik. more str=more dmg

gloves-
ik

boots-
sanders(ar,frw,str,dex)

jewelry-
angelic ammy
1x angelic ring
1x soj(more bo, crit, res, frw, and most importantly... MANA)

helm-
14edmg
46max
34ar
3bo assault helmet


this barb pretty much owns.
i havent lost to a zealer, charger, ww barb, smiter, jab zon, cs zon, fury druid, conc barb etc yet.
the only thing that really gets me every time are good sorc's. i can kill hammerdins if i get alot of crit's and ds's put together i have 95% chance to crit/ds
lvl7 crit strike=49%
21% from mastery
and then 25% ds from my honor.

my most common setup is honor zwei + spirit zwei.
it has not good range.
alot of mana.
and its fun as hell

[wOOt]

my barb is lvl 35 tho but i still mention its gear here just for the fun of it..

Weapons:
15ed naga socketed with 2shael + ed/max jwls so its givin 26 - 117dmg atm and missin 1 jwl so it gets about ~140/141 max dmg
Honor naga in second hand vs casters

Shields:
Upped soled swordback for some bvb duels
grim rhyme

Armor:
Peace mageplate
71life/66max lightplate
upped rockfleece soled --> 523deff 10%dr 12dr 5str black unique arm

Gloves:
ik ofc

Belt:
ik or strings dependin on opponent

Boots:
ik ofc for set bonusses.

jewelry:
angelic amu + ring all times
118ar 7str 5energy 75mana rare ring

helm:
45max 3bo 57life 3energy assault helm

max ww speed when usin shield
second fastest when usin 2 weapons
25x mana

btw kill.. deadly and critical doesnt add up just critical + deadly.. its more complicated than that u have more like 75-80% chance for double dmg than that 95%

[Meathead]

i know they dont add up.
but thats even better
u can crit and ds at the same time.
i think.

[wOOt]

no u cant.. it just checks both for double dmg.. if the first checked part gives double dmg i think the second just does nothin then