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Bloody_Bartuc
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject:
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Soo, as i have been bitten by the WoW bug this christmas, i've tried to get my wealth up quickly as possible in order to start "llding" on WoW. So, here is my plan for a lvl 19 rogue, built for owning WSG.
Undead/Gnome
Cruel Barb
Cruel Barb (for hi dps, bonus to attack)
Blackened Defias Leather Gloves
Blackened Defias Leather Boots
Blackened Defias Leather Leggings
Blackened Defias Leather Armor
Blackened Defias Leather Belt
Green Tinted Goggles
Leather Shoulderpads
Meadow Ring of the Monkey
Meadow Ring of the Monkey
I will enchant all that i can with plus to agility. I'm going to aim for 20 percent critical, I'm going to have 5 in malice, 2 in improved sinister strike, and 3 in improved eviscerate. He will be able to take warriors head on with evasion, own clothies, and have no trouble with hunters cuz without range, theyre fried. The enchants will cost a lot, but my friends guild is pretty good, so i can hopefully get em for free. Also, all of that gear drops from deadmines, so I can make this guy on welfare even. Uhh, comments?
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject:
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thats cool, there are better items but im 2 lazy to post.
I plan on making a lvl 19 Mage.
-Nate
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MeshinLLD
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject:
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I dont know anything about twinking on WoW, though i love twinks on EQ, i have a few. Ive got a level 25 rogue on EQ i let sit in the freeport arena, and wait for newbies or some decent leveled people to come into freeport.. lure them to the arena and then jump go into sneak mode, and backstab for 500-550 damage or so
Fun stuff, you get some funny responses almost as good as the ones on D2 lol.
Your rogue does sound like it will do well, let us know how it turns out =)
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject:
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MeshinLLD wrote: | jump go into sneak mode, and backstab for 500-550 damage or so
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thats just cold man...
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MeshinLLD
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject:
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And extremly insane because thats what level 40-45 Bs normally..
Oh by the way.. he was originally lvl 56.. then i got tired of him.. so i de leveled him all the way to lvl 25.. He has 140 AA's at level 25 not good
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:55 am Post subject:
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i know very little of the items so w/e u have researched i cant argue
but you could go nuts with a crusader enchantment on your weapon
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:42 am Post subject:
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Your gear choices are bad..
Skullcrusher has a HUGE HUGE HUGE 10-19, and 20-29 WSG player a base, and the economy for it is insane. Lots of the blues go for 100-200g easy.
Personally, I believe a hunter is the top choice for both 10-19, and 20-29 WSG.
In WC, there are blue pants that drop that spank Defias, which sucks TOTAL ass, the set bonuses are bad. You also get a better chest reward from defeating VC. Many more mistakes but I'd need to research.
Unless you want to dish out 400+g, don't bother. You'll suck.
20-29 is 600-700+g for a good one.
This is obviously server depending prices... I recently came across 1300g this week so I might make a twink, but to tell you the truth I don't feel like playing 5 hour WSG games when I still have characters to level and pvp with.
Also, get Stamina over agility. Trust me, when you go to backstab that paladin or shaman, and they don't even flinch, you'll want to live long enough to atleast annoy them.
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Entreri
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:00 am Post subject:
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Why does everyone twink Rogues, and nothing else? I think I would enjoy a twinked caster more than anything else, at least it would be a change from stealth and ambush over and over, though the rogues would tear it to pieces... Maybe a warrior would be fun.. disarm would own rogues...
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:58 am Post subject:
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Phsyical damage can be heightened much more than elemental, as is in D2 also.
Hunters are more popular than rogues anyway
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MeshinLLD
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:23 am Post subject:
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Because casters get their more powerful spells with levels it just dosent work twinking them for that, though some casters you can twink like in everquest casters do get some clicky robes and items (clicky means it casts a spell or something when you click it) So you can take your lvl 15-25 to a lvl 60 area.. to get the no drop uber item.. but this is so much more troublesome.
Also the other choice would be to use the casters shielding spells and such, combined with good melee twink items..
Its just so much easier to make melee beefy
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject:
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IMO.. 300+ crit fire dmg > melee -___-
Now imagine that crit on a instant like Fire Blast.
-Nate
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject:
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ExPiReD wrote: | IMO.. 300+ crit fire dmg > melee -___-
Now imagine that crit on a instant like Fire Blast.
-Nate |
... 300+ fire damage? Wow! Got any life with that terrible damage?
You better hope to hell you crit on that fireblast because you're dead. Especially without blink.
Rogue Ambush for 500? Backstab for 200-300 more? ++++ even.
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Bloody_Bartuc
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject:
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Spazz wrote: | Your gear choices are bad..
Skullcrusher has a HUGE HUGE HUGE 10-19, and 20-29 WSG player a base, and the economy for it is insane. Lots of the blues go for 100-200g easy.
Personally, I believe a hunter is the top choice for both 10-19, and 20-29 WSG.
In WC, there are blue pants that drop that spank Defias, which sucks TOTAL ass, the set bonuses are bad. You also get a better chest reward from defeating VC. Many more mistakes but I'd need to research.
Unless you want to dish out 400+g, don't bother. You'll suck.
20-29 is 600-700+g for a good one.
This is obviously server depending prices... I recently came across 1300g this week so I might make a twink, but to tell you the truth I don't feel like playing 5 hour WSG games when I still have characters to level and pvp with.
Also, get Stamina over agility. Trust me, when you go to backstab that paladin or shaman, and they don't even flinch, you'll want to live long enough to atleast annoy them. |
Yeah, well ok. I can think of a few things wrong with this. THe blue pants of leggings of the fang, and the fang set blows for rogues. If i was a shammy / druid, i would use it all the way, but otherwise, no. Stamina gives me more life. Agility gives me more chance to hit, more chance to dodge, more armor, and more crit percentage. For a rogue, agi is definitly the way to go. The only "stamina" chant i could even consider is a 100 health chant to chest. I might also go minor speed to boots.
To jerkazoid, i would go crusader or lifesteal with my weps, but i can afford. I'm getting the agi chants for free from my friends guildie cuz he already has the mats.
To all the people who suggeseted backstab, i should note that one, you have to be behind your target ( hard), two, that would require gouging them, because i cant do it out of stealth, and three, the biggest point of all, it requires a dagger main hand. THe only dagger worth considering is a 300 gold dagger called the Assassination Blade, which would put me back quite a bit. Its dps is also roughly equal to my cruel barbs, which are free from deadmines. Also, gouging plus backstabbing puts me on something like 15 energy, not good against warriors or druids. Also, for me to go backstab, i would not have put 2 in Imp SS, i would go for imp backstab. THe point of this rogue will not be to sneak up on people and stab them in the back, it will be to sprint up to them, kill them within a few seconds ( via SS and eviscerate). THats why i'm going for uber dps via the cruel barbs, i could try to use that shadowfang, but thats 185 gold. : /
Also, whoever said that hunters own at 19 is misinformed. At 19, hunters have nothing. They have no rare bow ( ranger bow is 20), they have no aimed shot ( their best damage dealing move) they have no freezing trap ( their sole immobilization technique at this lvl besides imp conc shot ) they have no feign death ( aka rogues/warriors = not good) The only thing that hunters have is 10 in MM, granting a 20 percent chance to stun for 3 seconds (good, except for the 20 percent part) and lethal shots, meaning 5 chance to crit with bows. While hunters cetainly can do well at a range, a sprinting rogue will kill a hunter way too quickly for the hunter to do anything. They cant even dual wield yet, and there's no shields. Wing clip? Big whoop, ill just gouge you. immo trap? lol, nice 100 dot there. Raptor strike? 6 second cooldown. In other words, while hunters own at higher levels, they blow at 19. Also, Nate, im wondering what "better" gear i could use. I know shadowfangs are better, but the price is sooooooooo high. Anyways, looking forward to feedback. Ty.
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Spazz
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject:
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Go make your Twink, and go without Stamina. You'll think "Shit, spazz was right"
On all twinks, ALL. You get max stamina. 9 Stamina enchants.
Assassination blade is a sword level 57.
You need to play a rogue before you considering twinking one.. you don't know much.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject:
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Spazz wrote: | Go make your Twink, and go without Stamina. You'll think "poop, spazz was right"
On all twinks, ALL. You get max stamina. 9 Stamina enchants.
Assassination blade is a sword level 57.
You need to play a rogue before you considering twinking one.. you don't know much. |
prob means assassin's blade... lvl 19 req.
:O Plx do not try and act like you know everything.
k, thanx -___-
-Nate
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