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Nosferatu
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject:
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Im Thinkin Bout Making a Vengance Pally. And If An Aura Ether Conc or Defiance Im Still Thinking, If You Have Any Ideas Let Me Know
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ATOMICMAN
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject:
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defiance would be cool, but with such a slow attack this would be a hard build to use
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Nosferatu
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject:
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Thats True But i think im going to do concentrate for pure dmg as well as ele form the vengance but also the non interuptable so with a good hit ratio i think this guy could do well.
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject:
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im gonna assume this will be lvl 30..
deadly strike doubles your dmg.. and then vengance works off that?
does conc add to your ele dmg? or is it adding to physical then vengance works after conc aura?
eth honor knout i would imagine.
the speed calc doesnt have anything on veng.. is it just normal attack? 8 frame max speed?
what about fanatasim to help with dmg (wich should help with vengance) AR and speed? .....(hmm,, but +225% conc though is a nice aura,damn thats alot of ele dmg.)
conviction might work out better if people had around 75-90% resistance,, but if they stacked alot.. then ud need conc
i did sorta wonder if this worked LLD..even with 75% res.
if Conc adds to wepaon dmg FIRST and then vengance ed% works off that... my calcs are showing about 400 a hit pvp after 75% and 10%dr, for a typical decent setup (about 250 from ele and 150 physical)
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Nosferatu
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:11 am Post subject:
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IM lovin your ideas jerkazoid but its gunna be lvl 29 hes gunna be melee BUT instead of conc i think i might go with a 4 sock ed aerin sheidl 118 ar 60 max, a 6 shaeld knout,
My auras going to be Holy Fire probly lvl 10 or 9 Still deciding
My synergies going to be resist fire lvl 9 or 10 deciding between the both
my vengace lvl 12
which i think if fire still works the way it used to with screwing with defence
ill be able to punch in sommeee mighty fire dmg considering the over vengance will increas the dmg so much
my only problem is if they have resists i think thats where my max stuff comes into play 45 max helm, 19 amx twitch, 60 amx shield
ether way i think ill figure somehting out
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:13 am Post subject:
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hmm conviction and fanatas are out.. but eh.. what about holy freeze
holy freeze 12 50% slow 130-140 cold dmg a hit
resist cold 4 +60% HF dmg
vengance 12
pre reqs.. skills used 32
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:15 am Post subject:
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nuts, i was thinking about making the same build (vengadin) while i was at work. i have alot of element jewels i need to use.
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Nosferatu
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:17 am Post subject:
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Well 1 Holy freeze is illegal for melee and for 2 i think id be able to pump out more fire dmg since its lower lvl and more skills can be added.
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:20 am Post subject:
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Nosferatu wrote: | Well 1 Holy freeze is illegal for melee |
oh.. yeah
o well....
i think the avenger would be great with HF.. too bad.
well u only have 32 skills.. if u pump vengance to 12.. you only have enough for lvl 14 holy fire, and 4 into the syngery.
slvl 14 Holy fire and 4 points into res fire is 108-129
slvl 12 holy freeze and 4 points into res cold is 130-140 : ) damn and it slows..
hmm maybe this shall be my new ladder build to screw with chargers and other high level melee builds
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Nosferatu
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:29 am Post subject:
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I think Its Gunna be
Holy Fire 9
Resist Fire 9
Vangance 12
Because the more resist fire it pumps up vengance and it pumps holy fire while thats happenin vengance will be pumping up the holy fire dmg so it will be insane i hope
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Nosferatu
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:35 am Post subject:
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Thx For All Your Ideas JerkAzoid if anyone of yall wanna know how he turns out ill probly be done with him later today im on useast.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:00 am Post subject:
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I wonder if it would be worth relaxing the rules to allow for pure vengeance using palliesto have access to holy freeze?
Jason, you should make this build w/ holy freeze and duel me to see if it is overpowered or not.
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Nosferatu
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:08 am Post subject:
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That would Be Nice knarl im thinking the vengance pally will turn out well i did skill check and itll do quite a bit of dmg and with holy freeze for vengance would only make it more intresting keep us posted plz.
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:16 am Post subject:
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Nosferatu wrote: | That would Be Nice knarl im thinking the vengance pally will turn out well i did skill check and itll do quite a bit of dmg and with holy freeze for vengance would only make it more intresting keep us posted plz. |
im jason. you're not.
i havent put much thought into it. but with most duelers having high (or atleast above 40 all) resists, i think holy freeze would probably be the only way to make a vengadin actually viable. slow attack, resistable dmg.
holy fire is probably the worst choice, as it is the most easily negated. id go cold or lightning, probably cold.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:21 am Post subject:
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Well lemme think wat am i to do?? im melee lvl 29 it stats holy freeze may nto be used that would take away my aura lightning is to high for me to get some decent elel dmg from because less synergy and less lvl so im left with fire with with vengance and all that would increas its dmg more and it aura so if u wanna change the rules im was plannin on makin cold but i relaized the holy freeze so keep me posted.
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