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Spazz
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 2:38 am    Post subject:  

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Actually I picked up this nice bow in 09 but I never got to trade it off
15% ED
+3 AR
5 sockets
+2 Bow and crossbow
level 20 required
cant remember damage, decent though



Probably a reflex bow.

I have a 15ed/3ar/3 bow skills stag bow. I should have traded it off when lvl 18 zons were all the rage. Rolling Eyes


Weird, I only ever remember two bowazons on East, you westerners are messed.

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject:  

Well, 2 Legit LLD bowazons anyways...the game was flooded with gay kukozons O_o

Actually back in 09 kukozons were stronger than wf zons (pierce and crap) and faster than burrito zons.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2004 3:56 am    Post subject:  

heres what youd want sean

Plague Bolt (1) Gothic Bow (also known as blackbow)
Two-Hand Damage 28 To 151
Required Dexterity: 118
Required Strength: 95
Required Level: 30
Bow Class - Fast Attack Speed
+2 To Amazon Skill Levels
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+159% Enhanced Damage
+18 To Maximum Damage
+104 To Attack Rating
6% Mana Stolen Per Hit

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Ghoul Loom (1) Gothic Bow (also known as bluebow)
Two-Hand Damage 30 To 165
Required Dexterity: 71
Required Strength: 57
Required Level: 26
Bow Class - Fast Attack Speed
+1 To Amazon Skill Levels
+178% Enhanced Damage
+17 To Maximum Damage
+143 To Attack Rating
+5 To Dexterity
Requirements -40%

too bad they;re both dupes and too bad they;re both on europe.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2004 5:58 am    Post subject:  

Hm... 6-Socket Gothic Bow with 6 +24 maximum damage jewels? o_O
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2004 11:03 am    Post subject:  

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Hm... 6-Socket Gothic Bow with 6 +24 maximum damage jewels? o_O


HUGE waste of 24max jewels. plus that would give you a range dmg of 10-194. if its superior itd be even worse, a range of 11-201ish. a nice average of like, 100.5, rounded down to 100.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2004 11:15 am    Post subject:  

Crimson jewels on the other hand would be neat.

a lvl 30 setup with +104 min dmg Smile

have to use all life sc's. or try like mad to get Red large charms of Sustance

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 12:58 pm    Post subject:  

@jerkazoid...what does a crimson jewels do? cant find it anywhere

im thinking of making a lvl 29 bowazon...how do i do it? would i sink as many points into guided as possible then the rest in passives? what works best?

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject:  

geeber wrote:
@jerkazoid...what does a crimson jewels do? cant find it anywhere

im thinking of making a lvl 29 bowazon...how do i do it? would i sink as many points into guided as possible then the rest in passives? what works best?


i cant really help you much,, i have not attempted 1.10 LLD bowzons just yet, so its theoretical.

decide WHO your fighitng... necros? sorc? chargers? (ofcourse u should NOT be fighitng meleers since your range its just BM)

Imo hybrid 29 just cant cut it,,infact the bow build wont really work.. and besides u should go 30. (u could use some +2 options and the extra Upped gear ability)

obviously all guided and passives (avoid/evade + critical) ..BC u woulnt use any jav skills

"crimson" jewels ( adds 5 6 7 or 8 min dmg) is req lvl 30.

anyway, max guided ,, get 50% into avoid and evade i guess. then u need critical strike. (its a skill intence build.. and expensive)
u need R/W (sanders) or natalyas for res vs sorcs
(2 sojs)
get +2passive ammy with life...
twitch i geuss..
Pcrown? hmm maybe a 30%r/w circlet with +2 passives Smile yeah ,,i wish!
SOE
+2 bow 10ias gloves..

and u need some great bow!

a 6 sock fast'ish bow with crimson jewels whould be kinda cool.. (a +3 bow 5 socketed reflex bow? maybe?)
min dmg has a cool feature about it,, but its not really the best since u could load up on fine sc's of sustance..

ud have to find red large charms of sustance to make it really effective,, yeah, good luck

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:26 pm    Post subject:  

Transcending met his day Very Happy Go Meli!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject:  

i just thought of something else...what if i could only afford iths and sols...wouldnt it be better to have max dmg charms in my inventory and still 5Xsol the bow? avg dmg would be the same(essentially) and min would be much higher...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:56 pm    Post subject:  

as long as the min dmg on the bow was not surpassing the max on the bow... once u surpass max dmg u sorta waste max dmg... its just about being wastefull.

also remeber +min is only better BC once u pass max each min = +1min +1max...

if u dont do this +9min is the same a +9max (statisitcally... and since u could have +15max ... that is better on avg.


check this example:

10-50 dmg bow with 6 SOLs = 64-65 dmg 64.5 avg
10-50 dmg bow with 6 +15's = 10-140dmg 70 avg

bc the amount of min dmg surpasing max wasnt very much u didnt get alot of the boosting

heres another
10-30 dmg bow with 6 SOls = 64-55 dmg 64.5 avg
10-30 dmg bow with 6 +15 = 10-120 dmg 65 avg


Another example
*10-15 dmg bow with 6 sols = 64-65 dmg 64.5 avg
10-15 amd bow with 6 +15's = 10-105 dmg 57.5 avg

*now in this last example u has FAR surpassed the max with min dmg what u really have is
10min +54min and 15 max +0max
or
64min and 15max
u would need to spend 49 max dmg (49 would be wasted) just to start making each +max actually add dmg

if u have a build without any max dmg from charms or jewel, then sol runes make sence (usualy) as they come out better

in VLLD using min dmg all the way can usually be a bit better even if its just +4min jewels and your avg damn has dropped a few %

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:17 am    Post subject:  

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Transcending met his day Very Happy Go Meli!!!!


um...no? if my paladin died, that was dave using it. someone else using my character doesnt count, as they obviously dont know how to use him effectively. thus your win doesnt matter, since i wasnt even there to witness it.

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If you want to make a challenge, use the Low Level Dueling section and make a post challenging him and then both of you post the results for all to bear witness to.

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