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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:03 pm    Post subject:  Kicker comparison  

As anyone else that uses a kicker knows, sometimes certain practically identical builds seem to be tilted in favor of one build for no real reason.

Today, I was doing some testing with Gaara-Sama and when he mentioned a bit more about his gear something occurred to me. Even though our damage, life, and gear looks very similar he is kicking at 4 kicks and and should be kicking at a much slower speed.

He has 1 pt into BoS (no +skills at all), his Strength runeword is in a Cestus which has a slower base speed than my Blade Talon version, and his only other IAS is from IK gloves/boots (25%).

I have 2 pts into BoS (level 6 with prebuff claws), Blade Talon Strength, and 10% IAS from my gloves.

He still goes toe to toe with me, about 50/50. The really weird thing is, he wanted to test something and swapped his strength runeword for a Triumphant Flail he just bought and he still almost beat me. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE!?! He also mentioned that he uses IK belt as opposed to String. I switched off my string for an IK belt also, then I got killed really fast. Put it back on, things seemed to even out a bit.

Both of us are level 35 and are packing alot of CB due to Rattlecage and Guillaume's Face.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject:  

how much life u each have... post more info
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject:  

His build at the time:
Guilaume's Face
Rattlecage
Whitstan's Guard
IK Boots
IK Belt
IK Gloves
Angelic Rings and Ammy
Strength runeword Cestus
No prebuff weapons

Around 330-550 ish damage and around 730 life. Max Block.

My build at the time:
Guilaume's Face
Rattlecage or Skins if using the Rares for 5 kicks
Rhyme Grim Shield
IK Boots
String of Ears (8 LL/15 DR/12 MDR)
IK Gloves or +2 MA rares with 10% IAS
Angelic Rings and Ammy
Strength runeword Blade Talon
+2 Shadow Disciplines x 2 on switch for prebuffing

Around 330-550 ish damage and around 730 life. Max Block.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject:  

Same thing happened to me but instead of 50/50 it was 0/100
He used a lvl 29 kicker 450dmg 4 kicks 500 life 7k ar 25%cb
I used a lvl 25 kicker 450dmg 4 kicks 800 Life 4k ar 25%cb

and... I lost bad.... but he told me he had alot of fhr so maybe the reason for me and you losing is fhr? Just a thought Confused

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:19 am    Post subject:  

Because he had more AR..
AR seems to be more important than ever in 1.10, no matter what anyone else says...

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject:  

your ar and lvl is making a difference:

u could have 900 def and he STILL has 95% chance to hit you.
if he has 500 def, u have 83% chance to hit.

this is a big difference.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject:  

In my situation, we both had around 9k AR.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 11:39 am    Post subject:  

your stats dont offer any solution, i have also had the same problem.

are any of u using cold?

the only thing i can suggest is fhr right now but that most likely will not solve your problem.

here are the best solutions i can think of:

1) hit first
2) walk not run
3) put on 10 sol runes

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 1:39 pm    Post subject:  

I'm pretty sure he's using some cold. I have CBF though. I know we both make sure we walk only.
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