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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject:  

The bermanently panned one, while you may not like the atmosphere that d2jsp maintained, they made trading effective and quick (like Jerkazoid said). There were many contributors on LLD101 that would have stayed regardless or not of allowing forum gold trading.

People already knew what FG was. People were already using it behind the scenes on this website. When I had a for trade list, 4 out of 5 of the people I wanted to trade with offered me FG instead. Type D2 trading in google.

The "JSP mentality?" That's everywhere. Most people online are 15 year olds who act like utter douche bags to every random person they encounter. We can't stop it. You're like the government trying to stop the civil rights movement. The moderation team did a good job here.

The system we had for Diablo 2 is perfect for Diablo 3. Lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah that was my point, a large portion of d2 gametime is spent trading and with our ban of gold here, it would only be a matter of time before people cut out the middleman. Since many users here also visited jsp, it brought up the question why even come to this website? But don't take it the wrong way. I'm not implying either of the sites as the "better" place, but our difference in atmosphere, community, and composure as a whole could only take us so far.

But hey, this is just my opinion. Maybe there were other factors that I'm not aware of, or haven't been brought up yet. This is just my penny on the matter.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject:  

There's also the fact that we ban people here, unlike over there. Out of the eleven that I've done personally, ten of them were multiple accounts of previously banned members though. The last one was just being a dick to everyone after being asked multiple times to stop. A lot of the banning in early years probably drove away some of the population because if your friends aren't welcome, you probably wouldn't want to be around either.

I've had one person ask me to be able to return, and I've said yes. There's also several people who would be instantly banned under the current rules for being previously banned, but there's no real point to doing so.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah, gheed, banning was part of the problem. We should try to establish a type of nationalism within our community--not ban people for exercising their natural rights. Before it is stated that the terms of service of this website void any rights we possess, we must remember that natural rights, in a civilized community, overrule any contracts.

I have a strong inkling with anecdotes that most of the community members that were banned were not doing malicious things to the website. These members were banned because the administrator couldn't win disagreements with their words. They chose the easiest options, like many people choose; they banned the users from the forums, so they didn't have to deal with it.

Members shouldn't be banned for solely expressing their opinions; and this is exactly what happened, regretably.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject:  

Virtuous wrote:
Members shouldn't be banned for solely expressing their opinions; and this is exactly what happened, regretably.
That's not entirely the case though. Expressing your opinion while being a douchebag is different from expressing your opinion while being civil. At least for any of the banned users that I've been completely or partially involved with, and weren't previously banned, I sent out private messages telling them to change what was happening because I actually didn't want to ban them. Long story short, when we had a larger userbase, this was a great community and I wanted to keep it that way.

On the other hand, there have been users who have had problems with me. Once before I was staff here, and twice after the fact. Tying in to the "great community" part, I did whatever so I could stay here.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject:  

krajee wrote:
Expressing your opinion while being a douchebag is different from expressing your opinion while being civil.

Neither warrant a ban. Being able to be an absolute prick while giving your opinion shows character. And I very much like my character. If I wanted to post in a nice friendly forum I would probably, instead of posting here, be watching Pleasantville followed by Willa Wonka and masteurbating to my middleschool yearbook like Zolas and Day-Old-Jones.

I'm glad lld101 was lead by Fidel Castro and completely phased into a catholic vortex of rape and emptiness.[/sarcasm]

In conclusion, [strikeout]Enzo[/strikeout] d2jsp won.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject:  

Virtuous wrote:
We should try to establish a type of nationalism within our community--not ban people for exercising their natural rights. Before it is stated that the terms of service of this website void any rights we possess, we must remember that natural rights, in a civilized community, overrule any contracts.


I disagree. When you registered for this forums you agreed to our terms and conditions. Within the boundaries of this website there are rules in place in which all members must abide to. This forum is not the United States of America, nor we do have their Bill of Rights granting you free and absolute speech.

When you visit and use these forums you abide by our rules. No if's and's or but's. Many people have enjoyed their time here, and its been said before: If you don't like it, you can leave.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject:  

It's okay to disagree. But I assume this server is in The United States of America, so it falls under the jurisdiction of The United States of America.

The Fourteenth Amendment has long been applicable to private organizations. The Fourteenth Amendment in Section 1 says "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

This means your terms and conditions cannot enforce any rules that conflict with the laws of The United States. You may state these rules, but you have no jurisdication to enforce these rules. Don't worry though! The Tenth Amendment reserves some rights for private organizations too.

It's like bringing candy into a movie theater. It's not illegal, and all the company can do is ask you to leave--at which point they may have you escorted out.

Welcome to America, outland! If you don't like it, you can leave my country, asshole.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject:  

I don't think you want me to prove you wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject:  

When someone in a position of power can't win, they resort to their only alternative.

Thank you for proving my point.

In real life we learn to discuss things with eachother.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject:  

For me it was it was select members of the community clinging to now irrelevant rules for dueling (no tele, etc.). I never posted too much obviously, but I lurked a bit and I was pretty familiar with the site, I just happened to be happy with the state of the JSP LLD forum at the time (emphasis on at the time).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject:  

We had those rules to create more viable options for builds, and to make it more fun!

The majority agrees that having other options than fireball sorceresses equals more fun.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject:  

Virtuous wrote:
We had those rules to create more viable options for builds, and to make it more fun!

The majority agrees that having other options than fireball sorceresses equals more fun.


I said now irrelevant, meaning at one point those rules were actually doing what they were supposed to, but now the old 101 rules just limit builds more than make them viable.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject:  

It was inevitable. The breadth and the convenience of d2jsp has made this site, and many others, almost entirely irrelevant....and its as simple as that. The only thing LLD101 offered was its own version of a community, and when many if not most of said community's members began to quit or transition to jsp themselves, it was over. Its a shame really.

edit: It really has nothing to do with banning fg transactions here. It has nothing to do with banning particular misfits either, and to say that the way this site was/is governed was the driving force in the its demise is silly.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject:  

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