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Test results for Eth, AR, kick and such.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:37 am    Post subject:  Test results for Eth, AR, kick and such.  

Conclusions:
Just save you some time, you can go into the data below though.

1. AR on weapon works for Dragon Talon(it might work for other kick skills too, but I didn?t test them) although the extra AR won?t show up in the character window.

2. Eth rune in weapon works for Dragon Talon(it might work for other kick skills too, but I didn?t test them). 6 Eth rune will ?75% defender?s TOTAL defense. Total defense means the defense after defiance, shout and such.

3. 6 Eth rune in weapon, with normal attack, will ?75% TOTAL defense too, instead of the popular belief that Eth only work on base defense. Other melee attack such as WW, Zeal, should follow the same rule but I didn?t test them.


Test 1
Attacker: lvl 30 assassin, lvl 20 Dragon Talon, 4 kicks, +495%AR, 112-168 damage, no other damage modifier such as crushing blow, no elemental damage. AR: 1666

Defender: lvl 27 paladin, 787 life, lvl 21 defiance, no DR, no life regeneration, no shield. Base defense 1190. With defiance active, TOTAL defense is 4403

Pally stand at a corner so it won?t be knocked back. Asn use Dragon talon to kick him, and I record the life remaining on pally after certain number of kicks.

Kick without weapon.

Dragon Talon numbers: 23 25 34 28
Life remaining: 40 67 33 18

Add them together, 23+25+24+28=110 Dragon talon kicks, and these 110 kicks took away (787x4)-40-67-33-18=2990 life from pally.

110kick/2990life here

Kick with a 900AR weapon.

Dragon Talon numbers: 12 12 11 11
Life remaining: 87 95 86 31

46kick/2849life here

Conclusion: AR on weapon works for Dragon Talon.


Test 2
(Attacker AR and damage are slightly higher than in test 1, but the idea is same)

Attacker: lvl 30 assassin, lvl 20 Dragon Talon, 4 kicks, +495%AR, 124-186 damage, no other damage modifier such as crushing blow, no elemental damage. AR: 2261

Defender: lvl 27 paladin, 787 life, lvl 21 defiance, no DR, no life regeneration, no shield. Base defense 1190. With defiance active, TOTAL defense is 4403

Pally stand at a corner so it won?t be knocked back. Asn use Dragon talon to kick him, and I record the life remaining on pally after certain number of kicks.

Kick without weapon.

Dragon Talon numbers: 24 19 19 18
Life remaining: 28 29 48 27

80kick/3016life here

Kick with 6 Eth weapon.

Dragon Talon numbers: 10 11 10 9
Life remaining: 21 90 81 84

40kick/2872life here

Surely you can see Eth in weapon works for Dragon Talon.

However, does Eth work for base or total defense? It?s a little tricky to calculate. First, let?s calculate the ?should be? chance to hit by using this formula:

% Chance To (be) Hit = 200 * AR / (AR + DR) * alvl / (alvl + dlvl)
AR = Attacker's AR
DR = Defender's Defense Rating
alvl = Attacker's level
dlvl = Defender's level
Without weapon(thus without Eth)=200x2261/(2261+4403)x30/(30+27)=35.7
Let?s name it H, so

H=35.7

Now with 6 Eth weapon.

Case A. Let?s assume Eth work on Total defense, and 6 eth ?75% defense in PvP, then pally?s defense become 4403x0.25=1100, so

A=200x2261/(2261+1100)x30/(30+27)=70.8

Case B. Let?s assume Eth work on Base defense, and 6 eth ?75% defense in PvP, then pally?s defense become 4403-(1190x0.75)=3510

B=200x2261/(2261+3510)x30/(30+27)=41.2

So the ratio is
Case A, Eth work for Total defense H/A=35.7/70.8=0.50
Case B, Eth work for Base defense H/B=35.7/41.2=0.87

Now let?s normalize the actual test data we have
No Eth 80kick/3016life=265kick/10000life
6 Eth 40kick/2872life=139kick/10000life

So the actual test ratio is 139/265=0.52 which is very close to the Case A.

Conclusion: Eth in weapon works for Dragon Talon, and it works on Total defense, 6 Eth would ?75% Total defense.


Test 3
Attacker: lvl 29 Druid, normal attack AR: 1176

Defender: lvl 27 paladin, 787 life, lvl 21 defiance, no DR, no life regeneration, no shield. Base defense 1190. With defiance active, TOTAL defense is 4403

Druid with life leech use normal attack to hit pally, I count total swing numbers and the one with successful leech(the little red swirl animation).

Without Eth 50leech/247swing=0.20 x100=20
With 6Eth 50leech/106swing=0.47 x100=47

By this formula % Chance To (be) Hit = 200 * AR / (AR + DR) * alvl / (alvl + dlvl)

Chance to hit without Eth should be=200x1176/(1176+4403)x29/(29+27)=21.8

Assuming Eth ?total defense, then defense become 1100

Chance to hit with 6 Eth should be=200x1176/(1176+1100)x29/(29+27)=53.5

Assuming Eth ?Base defense, then defense become 3510

Chance to hit with 6 Eth should be=200x1176/(1176+3510)x29/(29+27)=26

Obviously 21.8 and 53.5 is close enough to 20 and 47

(note: I did similar test with Eth vs Shout, got the similar results)

Conclusion: 6 Eth rune in weapon, with normal attack, will ?75% TOTAL defense
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