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[14] Virtuous' Guide to The Level 14 Psychic Hammer Assassin
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject:  

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How fast is the killing speed? I can't imagine very quick doing between 25-50. This looks like a neat build if you just wanna bm someone, but i don't see it being very fun when you just namelock and hold until they die after ten minutes :/


It's not bad mannered. And please don't post in my thread if you don't bother to read the guide; I thoroughly discussed this build as being taken as 'BM.'

It's more than namelocking, if you're dueling anyone with ANY FHR.


ok, i actually did read the guide, so sorry for stating my opinion. I would consider this build bm. I have nothing against it, just stating what seems obvious to me. Even against someone with a ton of fhr what can you expect them to do? I don't know why you are seeming to get defensive. You did a good job on this guide, i simply posted my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject:  

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badguts wrote:
How fast is the killing speed? I can't imagine very quick doing between 25-50. This looks like a neat build if you just wanna bm someone, but i don't see it being very fun when you just namelock and hold until they die after ten minutes :/


It's not bad mannered. And please don't post in my thread if you don't bother to read the guide; I thoroughly discussed this build as being taken as 'BM.'

It's more than namelocking, if you're dueling anyone with ANY FHR.


ok, i actually did read the guide, so sorry for stating my opinion. I would consider this build bm. I have nothing against it, just stating what seems obvious to me. Even against someone with a ton of fhr what can you expect them to do? I don't know why you are seeming to get defensive. You did a good job on this guide, i simply posted my opinion.


A level 14 charger makes this character short work. Fact.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:28 am    Post subject:  

I read the guide. I'm sorry to say it, but it's a failure build. You can completely negate your character with a Nagelring and a Cathan's ring in stash.

Ironically, while you mock people for not keeping twenty run/walk LC's in their stash just to fight you, you make no effort to come up for a contingency plan when people put on some mosquito block. They probably lose their max block since they don't have Angelics anymore - try using a Javelin and a maxered shield on your switch.

But that would make too much sense, and you can't be troubled to duel people who might adjust their strategy to deal with a fairly BM "run and rep" build. It would be like making a CS zon and then insisting that no one use any Lightning Resist against you, because that's just no fair!1!!

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2-15 isnt possible on level 18 jewels. He must mean 2 x 15 maxers


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject:  

Interesting, my post was deleted. Guess I have to just say it again.

Roy, stop being an asshole.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject:  

i dont really know if you could call roy an asshole hes really just speaking his mind about this build with its flaws
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject:  

The only duelers that this build has trouble killing are rep smiters imo. Their life rep > hammer dmg. btw nice guide Razz.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject:  

the build cant kill anything. its no more a dueler then a pure frogger-leap barb who just pushes people around or some ultra vigor/sin who just roadrunners around pissing off everyone like willie-coyote.

anyone who dies to it was being silly and allowing themselves to die or clueless about negating it.

its solely a novelty to screw with med/high levels..and on lld just for shiggles. its an off the wall crazy build but has 0% viability.
its to teach manners imo.. paired up two lvl 25 versions will RAPE-stun anything so hard their ass turns into a smile

recockulasly fun, but a novelty just the same.
the guide is prety much perfect. the build is what it is.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject:  

Torrent wrote:
Interesting, my post was deleted. Guess I have to just say it again.

Roy, stop being an asshole.


Moderators find it adequate to delete things they find subjective.

I think I lost interest in D2 a year ago or so.

Anyways, there is no way to have a weapon switch or even a stash switch to make this build compatible to dueling other melee characters.

I didn't post this, but I used 2x katars with 2x 15% all resist jewels in each on my switch.

Fine katars of readiness. I liked them.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject:  

Torrent, I move unnecessary spam to the Evidence Locker. When your only comment is "Roy you're an asshole," I will move it. If you said "Badguts you're an asshole," I would have done the exact same thing.

If you actually tried contributing to the discussion, Torrent, you wouldn't have that problem.

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Still don't care.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject:  

You could use a maxer/jav switch (if you really like those fine katars of readiness just keep the maxer set up in stash) although it really won't do much against any real llder as your damage would be pretty low, but atleast it would be some help...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject:  

Roy wrote:
Torrent, I move unnecessary spam to the Evidence Locker. When your only comment is "Roy you're an asshole," I will move it. If you said "Badguts you're an asshole," I would have done the exact same thing.

If you actually tried contributing to the discussion, Torrent, you wouldn't have that problem.


This post does nothing to contribute toward my thread.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject:  

The wal-mart 2 wrote:
You could use a maxer/jav switch (if you really like those fine katars of readiness just keep the maxer set up in stash) although it really won't do much against any real llder as your damage would be pretty low, but atleast it would be some help...


I thought about this. It just doesn't work. You need attack rating first of all. Then you need more damage. I suppose an entire gear switch in stash would be helpful for those who use DR/MDR negation, but why bother?

My stash was full anyways. Hotspurs and other negation items.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject:  

Virtuous wrote:
Roy wrote:
Torrent, I move unnecessary spam to the Evidence Locker. When your only comment is "Roy you're an asshole," I will move it. If you said "Badguts you're an asshole," I would have done the exact same thing.

If you actually tried contributing to the discussion, Torrent, you wouldn't have that problem.


This post does nothing to contribute toward my thread.


To the contrary - because you cannot refute the fact that your build is considered to be BM and is easily countered, you tried to change the subject to a supposed abuse of my moderating powers.

My post showed that you were lying.

If you would like to keep this discussion about your Guide, I would suggest that you drop the hypocritical victim act. It reminds me of Mr. Don't Taze Me Bro - you act like an ass to people in your thread, and then you pretend to be a victim in the Q&A section. If anything, I've been way too lenient with this thread and I should have sent many of your posts and Torrent's posts to the E-Locker.

Ironically, while you insult badguts and myself for suggesting that this build is BM, you freely admit to keeping Hotspurs (highly BM) and other negation items in your stash.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject:  

Roy wrote:
Ironically, while you insult badguts and myself for suggesting that this build is BM, you freely admit to keeping Hotspurs (highly BM) and other negation items in your stash.


That would depend on the reason for having them, and the circumstance in which they were used. Not a big point really, just saying.

Example: Moron(meaning, non-lld) 30+fire sorc hostiling him, it just gives him the means to deal with the situation better.
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