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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject:  Is It Worth It?
Subject description: lvl 39 dual butcher barb
 

so i found a really nice lvl 39 circlet (1 barb, 30 frw, visionary, 4 min dmg, 57 life). and i would love to make use of it, but about all i can think of is a 39 barb with dual butchers. is it worth making a barb like this to use the circlet? or would:
a) the barb fail
b) guillaume be better
im thinking dual butchers with ias/ed jewels, shaft, angelics, ik gloves/belt/boots. swap on a whistan for max block when needed. and the typical stash gear for resists/cbf. worth it or should i not waste my time...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject:  

thats what i figure to. but i love finding uses for good items Sad would it seriously cripple the build to swap out guillaume for that circ? particularly vs casters. i might keep one handy for melee duels... but i dont like swapping gear when i dont have to

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2848/screenshot036pz9.jpg <-- there's a link to the pic. its not cropped so i wont post it

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject:  

that helm could be useful for being more of a hit and run o/w build imo
ofc youd use guilliams but stash the helm for frw when needed

craft an o/w belt that complements it too?
life/rep life and pdr are what id look for

id use that helm vs pnb necs
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject:  

is that circlet better than a:
+1 all skills
15% FRW
12 life replenish
+20 energy (more ww's?)
+20 vitality (80 more life on a barb?)

it's close. more frw and ar (which might not be needed vs casters) versus more life, replenish (which is probably useless if this is your only replenish) and more mana for less potting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject:  

butchers has 25% ow already, so i dont think i'd sacrifice the stats of ik for 10% more. and the circ is much better than a pcrown if you ask me. the +energy and +vitality wont be multiplied by BO, whereas the 57 life will be multiplied, giving me more life than 20 vitality. also visionary mod and 30 frw are sexy. so all pcrown offers me is a bit of mana (1 ww worth) and rep life.

so this is what it boils down to. i have my heart set on using that circlet even though i know guillaume is typically a better helm, and i'll probably have one in my stash anyway. but what i want to know is would this 2fpa ww barb still be effective using that circlet instead of a guillaume, or would it cripple the build completely to lose all that crushing blow.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject:  

Why not use an eth hone sundan for your cb? its much sexier than 2x butchers.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject:  

i made a lvl 38 eth hone sundan barb a couple ladders ago and destroyed everything with it. im looking to make something new, and something 39. what i'm asking is can i make this build work without guillaume/crushing blow?!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject:  

Waramp wrote:
i made a lvl 38 eth hone sundan barb a couple ladders ago and destroyed everything with it. im looking to make something new, and something 39. what i'm asking is can i make this build work without guillaume/crushing blow?!


:O what is an eth hone sundan barb o.O
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject:  

badguts wrote:
Waramp wrote:
i made a lvl 38 eth hone sundan barb a couple ladders ago and destroyed everything with it. im looking to make something new, and something 39. what i'm asking is can i make this build work without guillaume/crushing blow?!


:O what is an eth hone sundan barb o.O
Lawl, it's a Barb using an Eth Hone Sundan as its weapon Mr. Green.


Use the Circlet for style Razz.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject:  

badguts wrote:
Waramp wrote:
i made a lvl 38 eth hone sundan barb a couple ladders ago and destroyed everything with it. im looking to make something new, and something 39. what i'm asking is can i make this build work without guillaume/crushing blow?!


:O what is an eth hone sundan barb o.O


a 4 frame, range 5 ww barb. with mediocre charms i think i had 32% total chance to crit/deadly, 80% crushing blow, 2400 hp, ~6k ar, 1800 damage... they're pretty nasty

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject:  

Oh, i'm just not familiar with that weapon. Could someone post a s/s of it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject:  

Hone Sundan
Yari
Two-Hand Damage: (95-107) To (193-217) (144-162 Avg)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 101
Base Weapon Speed: [0]
Durability: 28
+160-200% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Adds 20-40 Damage
45% Chance of Crushing Blow
Repairs 1 Durability In 10 Seconds
Socketed (3)
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject:  

i think it does 308 max dmg eth? and 3x shaels hits the last ww bp
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