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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject:  Something to get the forum active.
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Everyone who cares about LLD101 should help me think of a way to make LLD101 more active. Because it's dead as hell. At least when fg was allowed to be traded here people used the website, now it's not even worth going on. Someone help! I need ideas. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:10 am    Post subject:  

It's an old game, perhaps a slow introduction of other "games you can lld" with as a sub-forum. I know It was brought up once a while back and was rejected. But the times have changed, perhaps opinion has aswell.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject:  

While the effort is appreciated, the problem remains that no one can say with certainty why the site is dying. Some people say it's all the mod's (or specifically my) fault for being mean and draconian, while others point to the general decline in people playing D2 overall. A lot of people who were members of the site joined while they were in late high school or college, and when they graduated they found that their lives kept them busy enough that they stopped playing (and visiting). Knarl and B[x] fell into this category. Others just take long breaks from the site, and may be gone for months between visits. (I myself have done this in the past.)

Numerous suggestions have been floated as "stop-loss" possibilities. We did in fact allow FG to be traded here, for one. I've also suggested opening up the site to include coverage of more games, and have suggested including mini-games on the site itself. My first suggestion was shot down, while my second suggestion... does not seem to have been embraced by Zharous. Wink

If we could have polled people as they quit the site as to why they decided to stop visiting, we could have some sort of data to approach a solution. But since people just disappear, we're left guessing. Ultimately, part of the problem is that the decline itself furthers the decline. I periodically get pm's from old members who pop back in, and they usually say something like "Hey Dao! Long time no see... say, is XXX person still active? How about YYY person?" When they find out that most of the people they used to enjoy talking to are gone, they themselves see little interest in coming back. So the situation persists.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject:  

Well I can tell you why I still visit this site. It is because of the community. I hardly play the game anymore, but I do like popping in every other day to see if there is anything interesting happening. But I think the Site should be more organic and evolve with those that as you say are moving on from Diablo 2.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject:  

I do understand where you both are coming from, and I get the feeling it's still about the morals of LLD101, and not changing them. But I feel bad for Zharous because he's paying for a forum that gets about 1-5 posts per day and 90% of those posts are just silly spam posts. Maybe we can try making it into other forums and just see if anyone else comes. Even if we allowed HLD trades in some sort of forum, at least people would come and the site wouldn't be a complete waste.

edit: And also I wouldn't say it's because the game is old, if you look at a site like d2jsp (yeah i know the site is pretty bad) it has thousands and thousands of active users.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject:  

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edit: And also I wouldn't say it's because the game is old, if you look at a site like d2jsp (yeah i know the site is pretty bad) it has thousands and thousands of active users.

Why do you suppose that is? Is it simply because the site has built up a heavily-used currency? Does jsp cater to other games? Also - jsp isn't primarily an LLD site; part of our problem is that we're focused fairly specifically on just one small part of the overall D2 gaming community. How many active users does D2 have? Now, how many of them LLD? 1%? 5%?

Part of our problem is our narrow scope. Always has been. It helped us a few years ago, when we could focus and develop a solid LLD knowledge base and trading community. But I think it's safe to say that narrowness is working against us now.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject:  

I think we should distribute free pornography.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject:  

If you love FG so much Spin, why don't you just go troll JSP instead of bitching about it here.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject:  

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I think we should distribute free pornography.

I have long advocated this.

Seriously though, I'm kind of disappointed Zharous never went anywhere with my minigames suggestion. He had said he was going to work on it, then I never heard from him again. As far back as the BBS days (we're talking around 1994) site-specific games have been a great way to sustain traffic. Granted, the internet is much much bigger than the BBS scene was back then, but oftentimes those games (and the competitions that come with them) are pretty good for business, so to speak.

I think it would have gone a long way toward sustaining our population, and might have even helped us initiate a forum currency by offering something everyone could compete in on equal footing with currency as a prize. Unfortunately, at this point I'm not sure adding those games would increase our population.

Something else we could have done was host our own D2 open server, like others have done. Not sure logistically how hard that would have been, but you can definitely imagine we could easily have created a place where we could enforce site rules, as well as craft an environment immediately favorable to LLDing.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject:  

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If you love FG so much Spin, why don't you just go troll JSP instead of bitching about it here.


Fuck you.

You obviously don't care about this site if this is all you have to say.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject:  

sPiN wrote:
Roy wrote:
<Generic snide comment about sPiN's motive in creating this thread.>


<Token profanity-laced retort and questioning of Roy's allegiance to the site.>

All right, all right. Let's just keep civil here on all sides, can we? You each got a dig in - let's leave it at that and try to be constructive hereafter.

Unless the two of you are implying that a way to boost site traffic is to go back to the days when everyone was constantly fighting each other...

If that's the case, then I'm immediately going to suggest a steel cage match between me and DiPLOMAT. He'll totally own me, 'cause he's all military-trained and such, but I'll take a beatin' for ol' LLD101. I'm a team player like that.

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sPiN wrote:
Roy wrote:
<Generic snide comment about sPiN's motive in creating this thread.>


<Token profanity-laced retort and questioning of Roy's allegiance to the site.>

All right, all right. Let's just keep civil here on all sides, can we? You each got a dig in - let's leave it at that and try to be constructive hereafter.

Unless the two of you are implying that a way to boost site traffic is to go back to the days when everyone was constantly fighting each other...

If that's the case, then I'm immediately going to suggest a steel cage match between me and DiPLOMAT. He'll totally own me, 'cause he's all military-trained and such, but I'll take a beatin' for ol' LLD101. I'm a team player like that.


I've seen pictures of you, I think dip could take you. Razz

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject:  

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I've seen pictures of you, I think dip could take you. Razz

I just got back from the gym. Judging by my performance, Stephen Hawking could take me. Without getting winded.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject:  

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I've seen pictures of you, I think dip could take you. Razz

I just got back from the gym. Judging by my performance, Stephen Hawking could take me. Without getting winded.


I'm getting a second job working at a gym quite soon, the place I cook at isn't making a profit and it shows in my hours. Sad

SO in a few months I could take you and Stephen Hawking at the same time.




And yes, I mean that in a completely sexual way.

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You can talk crap about somebody for no good reason, it means nothing, but it's hella fun.

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