LLD101

skulls · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject:

what relm are you in and ladder or nl?

pypride · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:52 am Post subject:

it shouldn't be too bad price wise i mean you can probably hell cow the eth highland blade use a socket quest then make it yourself, but imo smite rapes barbs...or at least any smiter that knows how to duel ww even if the range is longer. But, i also think barbs are more fun, so if you want to have fun barb is right choice lol but if you wanna kill everything(basically - and which is also fun haha) then smite is a good choice too

Mimes · _________________ 1,000th post on 12/12/07

if a ww barb (or sin) knows how to play vs smiters then can almost always win...if they are about equal in gear. Of course if the smiters gear is like 10x better then the ww barbs, he is still going to win, but if the barb knows how to duel vs smiters they can do very well.

I spent some time and got pretty good with my WW sin. I could beat smiters pretty easily as long as you always make them move to you, then ww away. If you time it right you can hit them almost all the time, and they hit you rarely.

I think that its a common misconception that Smite is > then WW. Except in maybe HLD when the smiter has like 35% ctc Life tap. Then your screwed.

pypride · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject:

that's where i feel your wrong, only dumb smiters try to go towards ww....desynch -> then come catch them from behind if they're gonna sit there and just ww away from me, i don't see why not i can't desynch them then pop up out of no where while smiting them =\ and when a pally has about as much life as a barb it's not a very good thing for the barb

skulls · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject:

Most mld barbs I've had or know about have had at least 20-30% more life than most mld palis the same lvl.

Mimes · _________________ 1,000th post on 12/12/07

Grim04 · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject:

MiKTeX · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:15 am Post subject:

Meh pallys are easy to kill on a barb... oh wait I play a hld bvc, nevermind.

desynch -> whirl into their charge for the most part, most people are too dumb to react and mostly just die right there, lol

Obedience in an exceptional polearm is a nice prebuff. godlay 200% ar bonus ^_______^

Also, which is >? eds prudence vs shaft? never really knew

dainbramage · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 138 2.65 Silvarrr

Smite without grief and without teleport ought to get creamed by whirlwind. The best they can do is shift-smite you or try to run into your path to smite.

Play offensively... defensively. Or something. Whirl at tangents to them, it's better to whirl and miss than to whirl and cop some smites. You outdamage the smiter and it's pretty hard for them to hit you. You have to go through hit and block checks, but at least you make it to those stages. The smiter has a very hard time making attacks connect.

If the pally charges, your range 3 whirlwind will cream their range 2 charge (assuming they're using a small crescent), and 25% block and autohit (charging counts as running, hit-check wise) will essentially be a few free hits to you.

pypride · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:29 am Post subject:

is this not the whole point of desynch? so they don't see you coming? if anybody has a 58 barb out there or even a 59 ( i have a gear switch to face both) i'd be more than happy to duel them Smile

i've yet to lose to a 58 or a 59 =\ - for dueling against mld i use oath/shaft not grief also have 1 unused skill point and 5 unused stat points so it's basically a 58 =\ just not the level...but yeah i agree most 59's are just dumb smiters with a grief....but hopefully this doesn't sound idiotic when i claim not to be one Sad

Grim04 · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject:

Level depends on to-hit calculations and what-not.

Even if you're leveled to 59, it makes a difference w/o using those stats/skills.

Mimes · _________________ 1,000th post on 12/12/07

i personally do not use mlds over 49 (except my lvl 50 bowa, cats eye was just too good to pass up).

But i did run into a lot of "Godly" lvl 59 "mlds". For some reason i just thought that he was planning on making a lvl 58 or 59 barb.

Destructoclaus · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:10 am Post subject:

I've decided to go with a ww barb all the way now. They tank better than smiters from what I've seen. But if I went to trade for an oath highland, how much would that cost me? About a hr or ist?

Visual Tactics · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:30 am Post subject:

Well, you havent told us your realm and nl or lad so we can't really help you there. You could post in the trading forums asking for a price check.

But seriously it can't be that hard to figure out,
hey they are a lad-only runeword so nl would be more expensive than a lad one
they have a mal+pul so they won't be any cheaper than that, plus you need a eth highland blade
the ed varies from +210-340%

From that info I'm pretty sure you can make an educated guess.

Destructoclaus · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:27 am Post subject:

I'm on e/sc/l and I can probably afford one, I have a few things worth pul, so I could muster up a mal or an ist. I'm saving HoZ for desparate measures.