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Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

your brains are leaking out your nose apparently. the more you blow your nose, the stupider you'll get

zarc · Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject:

i didn't think i had that much brain to leak...

Mimes · _________________ 1,000th post on 12/12/07

that would be a pretty gross way to fuel your car. It would also take a really long time to tank up.

dainbramage · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 138 2.65 Silvarrr

Goky · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1425 1.68 Silvarrr

I wouldn't think that long triglyceride hydrocarbon tails burn real efficiently, not to say it doesn't work, but that's bound to make a little soot.

Honestly though, our problem lies more in the fact that we require so much energy in the first place. You think that if everyone started using vegetable oil that there wouldn't be a whole host of similar and/or new environmental problems? And yes, used vegetable oil is cheap, but if we all used it, do you think it'd still be cheap? I'd imagine the amount of used oil gained from Sally Soccermom's french fry order doesn't actually outweigh the amount she would have had to burn to get to McDonalds that day.

I mean I'm not trying to be pessimistic here or anything, but yeah. Thermodynamics always wins, and any energy we use has to come from somewhere--most of the common methods we use now are there because they are relatively cheap, and relatively efficient (with plenty of undesirable byproducts, of course). Even things that seem benign to your every day person (hydroelectric power, for instance) certainly aren't quite as innocent as they seem.

Of course I'm not saying that we shouldn't try to minimize damage as much as we can, but it's easy to only look at one part of the picture and be like "hey, we're helping things!". You have to look at the whole process, really.

Meegz ? · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:23 am Post subject:

Goky- master of making everyone who's trying to do the 'right' thing feel like stupid asses!

J/k man, it was funny how you just shot down the entire thing and crushed everyone hopes and dreams all in one fell swoop.

And btw that whole vegetable oil thing is biodiesel right? They ran a section on it on the show Trucks or one of those on saturday mornings on SpikeTV about a year ago. Its pretty cool stuff, doesnt really show a big loss in power or anything. If you want to do this honestly I'd try for a Ranger-size pickup truck with a diesel engine. Generally can be found relatively cheap and since they were diesel to start with they can have 300k miles on em and still run just fine.

Grim04 · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:08 am Post subject:

Dao Jones · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:23 am Post subject:

Meegz ? · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject:

yeah, but they can make plastics out of all kinds of shit, i.e. corn

Torrent · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject:

Maybe we should just go back and forth between gasoline, petroleum and ethanol. It'll be like a game...just wait for prices to turn unfavorable and say "WAIT, THIS IS BETTER."

Simple as butter vs. margarine.

Goky · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1425 1.68 Silvarrr

Weaj · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject:

I'm not too great at adding points to discussions like this, so I generally just stay out of them. I will say that canola requires a lot more fertilization and other spraying than do corn. Canola is another crop that is being grown for biodiesels. Since I don't exactly know too much more than this, and from what I've heard/seen in life/other things (tv/news/internet) what I would think would be better suited for biodiesels would be algae. Look it up if you want to, comment, I don't really have much to say.

Mr_Bilson · Joined: 25 Dec 2005 Posts: 257 0.00 Silvarrr

wouldnt this be cool?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_photosynthesis

Goky · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1425 1.68 Silvarrr

Bloody Mess · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: