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Rooke
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:43 am Post subject:
pb vs z ebotd Subject description: its a battle of speed vs power |
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ive recently found a wolfhowl laying around on some mules and for shits in giggles im in the process of making a wolf barb. ive done some off line testing with the gear i have avilable to me, i <3 hero editor , which for the weapon is my ebotdz.
now as im assumeing you know that speed of you attack when shifted is only from your weapon, meaning that any other ias gear you have is just mute. so ive thought of getting a ebotpb.
ive hacked it up and the pb is clearly faster but the zerker hits way more damage.
the zerker reads about 1700 and the pb is around 1000 but it looks as if for every 1 hit the zerker makes ive already done 2+ with the pb!
so figureing thats 1700 as compaired to 2000 maybe a bit more (if im looking at something like half frames)
has anyone done any testing to see which is actually better? with the pb it seems like more a zeal or fury because im hitting much faster.
since im using wolfhowl i dont have access to fury, which then the zerker would clearly be the best choice.
Last edited by Rooke on Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:18 am; edited 1 time in total
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Grim04
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:58 am Post subject:
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I used ebotdpb on my wolf barb, but I'd suggest griswold's weapon to hit last bp or even a grief pb.
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krajee
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:07 am Post subject:
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If it's for pvm, go with the botd zerker, otherwise use a grief pb.
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:43 am Post subject:
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Grief, runemaster, or gris weap imo.
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Waramp
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:26 am Post subject:
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oh wow, barbs can hit 3 frame feral rage with a 100 ias phase blade. anyway, if you use an ebotd war spike, you'll be hitting 5 fps. phase is 4 but low damage, zerker is 6 but higher dmg. i would probably personally go for the war spike
ps: grim, can i plx see your ebotdpb?!?! worth 10k+ fg i would imagine
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Rooke
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject:
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well its for pvm, im not big on hld...
a war spike would be nice for the range also but then again it is pvm and im quite fond of using a sheild
still wouldnt the speed of the ebotdpb make up for the lack of power it has?
also i like the leech of botd compaired to grief because i dont have an extra pair of dracs laying around
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject:
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grief has more avrg dmg
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Rooke
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject:
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yes and i do like the allure of the 350-400 (depending on roll) damage and the ctc venom for some extra damage.
i think im just going to stick with the ebotdz though... not worry about needing to trade and all that stuff. plus ive already started making the barb and pumping axe mastery.
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Grim04
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject:
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Waramp wrote: | ps: grim, can i plx see your ebotdpb?!?! worth 10k+ fg i would imagine |
Silly me, I accidentally deleted that barb a year ago or so... kinda sucks too since I lost some shitty charms and my perf wolfhowl.
Not too mention my perf 415ed Botd Phase.
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Waramp
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject:
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Rooke wrote: | well its for pvm, im not big on hld...
a war spike would be nice for the range also but then again it is pvm and im quite fond of using a sheild
still wouldnt the speed of the ebotdpb make up for the lack of power it has?
also i like the leech of botd compaired to grief because i dont have an extra pair of dracs laying around |
few things here. first: war SPIKE is not the same as war PIKE. war spike is the elite version of military pick. second: you cant have an Ebotd phase blade, since you cant have eth phase blades. and because they cant be eth, you miss out on a lot of damage. so if its for pvm i say use ebotd war spike.
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Meegz ?
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:50 am Post subject:
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if you play d2pk you can have ebotd pbs
for pvm, i'd probably use a griz caddy or botd war spike (speed or dmg)
for pvp, grief is so damn good its hard to beat with anything.
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Mimes
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject:
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i thought u could up 6os eth d blades?
or mabey it just doesnt let you o.o
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject:
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doesn't let you
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Meegz ?
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject:
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only way to up things is if they are rare or unique (so i can't up the cruel waraxe of evis for oldschool fun that i found)
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