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Spring
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:45 am Post subject:
Lvl30 Kicker Help. |
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I'm getting many responses on how kickers are the weakest in melee llding and that they don't do any damage unless built with perfect gear. Is this true?
I am making a pure kicker for melee duel only and planned gear is
Blade Talon 30ias With 2shaels 70ias.
Peasant Crown Perf ruby
Spirit Shroud Perf ruby
Whistans socketed with..?
Angelic ammy/Ring
Rare ring with ar/stats/life
War boots with frw/dext/fhr
2Ma/dext gloves
Strings
x2 +2Shadow claws on switch
+2Shadow ammy for small prebuff
Should I go an all strength build for more damage and rely on charms for life? Melee vs Melee only
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wOOt
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 398 BNet Acct/Realm: \m/ Europe -> Finland \m/
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:21 am Post subject:
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erm..
u will get pretty "decent" dmg without all out str but seems like ure build doesnt have any cb that might hurt..
upped gobs might fix that..
or strength bladetalon if u go for bos way..
or even ugly rattlecage..
otherwise ure items looks pretty decent..
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krajee
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 6579
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:26 am Post subject:
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For a pure melee vs melee kicker, I'd do this:
+2ma circ
strength hand scythe with +3dragon talon
+2ma ammy
spirit shroud
+2ma gloves
rare rings
war boots
string of ears
artisan's tower shield of deflecting with ed/str/dex jewels
Yes, it's a non fade build, but the damage output is amazing. I always wanted to try it out, but I've never been able to get the handscythe.
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iDestruction
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 47
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:48 am Post subject:
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ummm i dont think you should p ruby anything, that will basicly make your char useless, btw to all the stupid people that mosted kicker guides, hint hint max dmg doesnt help kick retards, find some 24 ed jewels or just 20s and put them in your gear, enhanced dmg helps your kick dmg
well acutally p ruby if your trying to hit high life, but if your trying to hit high dmg and life just get ed jewels in your items, and some life/ar charms, armour should probaly be 24 ed -15 req on a 4 soc anicent armor.
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krajee
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject:
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Remember this? Visual Tactics wrote: | iDestruction, please use your EDIT button. I've combined your posts. |
My magic wand has a target.
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Matroskin
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject:
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iDestruction wrote: | ummm i dont think you should p ruby anything, that will basicly make your char useless, btw to all the stupid people that mosted kicker guides, hint hint max dmg doesnt help kick retards, find some 24 ed jewels or just 20s and put them in your gear, enhanced dmg helps your kick dmg
well acutally p ruby if your trying to hit high life, but if your trying to hit high dmg and life just get ed jewels in your items, and some life/ar charms, armour should probaly be 24 ed -15 req on a 4 soc anicent armor. |
How come i thought 20ed is max for 30lvl..
Max/ar/life scs can give more ar than ar/life scs.
Ancient armor sounds just silly to me :F
Searching for 30ias ar claw might be worth it, especially if u use MA ammy and rare rings as krajee suggested.
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Virtuous
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 1257 BNet Acct/Realm: *Vanished
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject:
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Yum nubcakes giving nubcakes advice.
Follow krajee's advice--go from there.
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Spring
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject:
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Any other gear possibilities? If possible.. I would like to avoid using Hand scythes seeing as how they consume so much time to get.
I have tried posting on forums/shopping for them for quite a while now.
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Jerkazoid
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 2902 BNet Acct/Realm: wscl
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Lvl30 Kicker Help. |
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Spring wrote: | I'm getting many responses on how kickers are the weakest in melee llding and that they don't do any damage unless built with perfect gear. Is this true?
I am making a pure kicker for melee duel only and planned gear is
Blade Talon 30ias With 2shaels 70ias.
Peasant Crown Perf ruby
Spirit Shroud Perf ruby
Whistans socketed with..?
Angelic ammy/Ring
Rare ring with ar/stats/life
War boots with frw/dext/fhr
2Ma/dext gloves
Strings
x2 +2Shadow claws on switch
+2Shadow ammy for small prebuff
Should I go an all strength build for more damage and rely on charms for life? Melee vs Melee only |
charms for life, always
pump str? its not the best option imo, you can do w/e,
theres no way you'll be in perfect gear so youll have to just crunch some numbers or take ideas from builds already out there.
a strength +3dt scythe, is only made with chip gem recipe,, can u even get a low quality hand scythe? the ilvl required should make that impossible?
best bet was +1ma 10ias 2sock -20% req +x DT scythe, through skulls or imbuing
getting venom up to slvl 10 or higher will make a big diff, so u might want to prebuff, (depends how modivated you are) with +2 shadow circ, 2 sojs as well.
a fade build will be the best imo for melee vs melee, u can get 7/3 speed with a good claw, but ull get that extra dr%.
u loose on crushing but u could use the rattlecage, it only really starts to help on those with above 1100 life anyway (druid or barbs only).. depends on your venom imo.
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krajee
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 6579
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject:
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Jerkazoid wrote: | a strength +3dt scythe, is only made with chip gem recipe,, can u even get a low quality hand scythe? the ilvl required should make that impossible? | Yea, I've found many of those, but luck was not with me. I've even found low quality tc87 items.
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DSotM
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject:
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I hear a lot of bad advice, IMO. If you're gonna use a 4 soc armor to put 20 ed jewels in, use a ancient armors, cuz to hit good dmg you need all str neways. The best kicker armor IMO would be something like 80 life 60 ed 15 str 15 dex Ancient armor. I use ik gloves/belt for not good dmg and ar. I use angelics jewelry for dex and horrible ar. I use prubies in my gear until i find 20 ed / str/dex jewels.
my stats are
630 dtalon
680 dflight
1.2k life
7.4k ar
143 all res
20 dr
max block
max ias frame
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Puddles
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 540 BNet Acct/Realm: Mr_Puddles/USEast Non-Ladder
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject:
Re: Lvl30 Kicker Help. |
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Spring wrote: | I'm getting many responses on how kickers are the weakest in melee llding and that they don't do any damage unless built with perfect gear. Is this true?
I am making a pure kicker for melee duel only and planned gear is
Blade Talon 30ias With 2shaels 70ias.
Peasant Crown Perf ruby
Spirit Shroud Perf ruby
Whistans socketed with..?
Angelic ammy/Ring
Rare ring with ar/stats/life
War boots with frw/dext/fhr
2Ma/dext gloves
Strings
x2 +2Shadow claws on switch
+2Shadow ammy for small prebuff
Should I go an all strength build for more damage and rely on charms for life? Melee vs Melee only | Maybe check the "Picture Forum" for improvements on your gears (I think DSoTM's guide was the best for a level 30 kick assassin)? I think that you should use Crushing Blow (This is just my opinion). I'm not sure about The Spirit Shroud. I heard that not "glitching" your equipments, and using 10 - 15 life small charms gives you more life than "glitching" your equipments with strength charms (I like "glitching" my equipments than using 10 - 15 life small charms) . Otherwise, great job.
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