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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject:  Smiter help  

What gear owuld be nice. I got a sweet lvl 13 60 block res, fhr/fbr pally shield. I just need to know if this is viable. Mahim oak, unique sabre, 2 nagels, sigon gloves/boots.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject:  

Your best bet for a shield is a monks barbed shield. It has the highest smite dmg available at lvl 27, and it is shoppable at drognan and anya, among other places probably.

And you don't need nagels for smite...AR doesn't affect smite. Your best bet for rings would be rares with +stats, life, resists, etc...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: Breakpoints please  

What are the breakpoints for smite?

Reading this while gathering different barbed shields is making me want to dump my ele fire druid and go for a lvl 30 smiter. Just need to know how many shaels I need to see if the class will be overpowered at lvl 30. Then, does the lvl 1 fana along with all the + to skills items produce more damage compared to concentration w/ the same + to skill items?

More hitpoints(meager), more skill placement, and more equipment like DR gear & 2 to skill ammy w/ mods all make for a better smiter especially if the rules do not change accordingly.

Like this one for example:
***Smiters may not use blessed hammer, but may use any other skill.

Also, just curious if I have an honor knout, does the 25% DS chance carry over to the smite damage?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: weups  

Thought I was logged in to post the above. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject:  

??? Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject:  

Things that work with smite:

Crushing blow
Chance to cast something on striking
Hit blinds target
Hit freezes target
Open Wounds
Enhanced Damage
Prevent Monster Heal
+Damage modifier on the Redeemer (unique Mighty Scepter) and Astreon's Iron Ward (unique Caduceus)
Curses such as Life Tap, Amplify Damage...

Things that won’t work with smite:

Life or Mana leech
Deadly Strike
Elemental Damage
+Max/Min Damage

The +damage modifier is specially useful in PvP, since it adds the straight amount of damage indicated (it won't be displayed in the character screen) to your attack, without being affected by the PvP penaly, Damage Reduction...

Taken directly from the Paladin F.A.Q. on the Diablo ii forums.


Also, try for a level 27 smiter, they are "more difficult" to accumulate the gear for then level 30 Rolling Eyes

Let's see... monks war scepter of alarcity (i think Embarassed ) would probably be your best bet for a weapon... try for some decent +skills too!
Hmm breakpoints....
with a war scepter the breakpoints are:
0 % 10
13 % 9
30 % 8
60 % 7
129 % 6

For a War Axe (best range on a 1-handed weapon...)
the breakpoints are:
0 % 11
11 % 10
26 % 9
48 % 8
86 % 7
180 % 6

If any of this information is incorrect, please let me know and I will fix it

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject:  

I'll make the 27 since he'll be my first smiter, but I'm eager to even try a 29n'er just for pub games. I still don't understand how someone gets 900 smite dmg though without the use of max dmg jewels or charms( based on what a smiter told me). I just mentioned lvl 30 since it was talked about to some degree as being the newly accepted lld max lvl, and I wanted to see how much better a lvl 30 would be compared to a 27, but I guess I'll have to make the 27 first.

So far, I cowed a white barbed shield with no stats and shopped 2x barbed shield of defl w/ minor stats. If I do intend to beef up the smiter, I'll try to "2 soc" the shield to rhyme it. As for the weapon, I still have a "steel" runeword cutlass in stash. It has nice mods on it, plus the thing is fast enough to get me to max frames on the smiter with deathset/ twitch.

Anyone care to explain how I can seriously beep up smite damage without the common usage of max damage charms? Is most of it going to be thru skill placement or can a good majority of the damage be added from ED items?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:16 pm    Post subject:  

+max dmg or +min dmg wont apply.. only +dmg

u can only add to the dmg by shield type, skills, and Off-weapon ed%

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject:  

what should have more points in it, smite or holy shield.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject:  

Holy Sheild
Should be able to max both.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:22 pm    Post subject: smiter help  

[im new to lld and have a few questions about smiters.Should i use conc or freeze and how many points should i put in them?For a sheild i hear a barbed monk sheild would be your best bet but wat about a barbed rhyme sheild? Is a 6 shealed wep da best wep for a smiter?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject:  

VoodooCamel wrote:

The +damage modifier... not affected by the PvP penalty
[from Dii forums]


for the sake of accuracy, this is not correct.

+dmg on those three new uniques is the same as +Xmin to +Xmax and does get cut 17% pvp.. the listed dmg is just another bug

here is the reading for it:

http://www.theamazonbasin.com/d2/forums/index.php?showtopic=40510&hl=redeemer


the best weapon was a "monks war scepter of alarcity" wth like +3 holyshield . and the +skills barbed oD is the better shield

u need decent speed and +skills for the best dmg possible

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject:  

A Monk war scepter of Swiftness would be lvl 27.
Smite damage comes from:
Base smite damage on shield
smite level
holy shield lvl
YOUR STR
ed jewels in anything other then weapon(this doesnt show in screen) I dont know how to check this

Getting a 900 max damage smite is pretty close to imposable at lvl 27. If you find out how please share with us. Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject:  

Strength doesn't add smite damage..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject:  

STR DOES add to smite damage. I have a lvl 32 smiter, for every point I but in str I get 1 min and 1 max damage. Quick test. Take a smiter and put Enigma on him and watch the damage
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