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Insight charger or Peace armr wearing dueler conceivably could have a % chance to hit Crushing Blow + Deadly Strike + Critical Strike on a hit. Can they ALL hit at the same time and if so...how is dmg calculated?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:10 am Post subject:
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no, you cant do more than double dmg, which is also why -resists wont go below -100. even if someone has -1000000 resists, it will only take your resists to -100
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ds and critical add up but its in some wierd equation, which still adds more, but not the whole lot.
eg: 20 critical and 20 ds = ~~~ 30 chance todo double dmg. thats just an estimate of the real thing.
im prty sure you can get a cb on the same hit though
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I THINK it just rolls them separately.
So in total 20%ds and 20% crit would be 36% chance to do double dmg?
Ofcourse i maybe [and probably am] wrong.
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yea its something like that, look it up in the sticky its in one of those sites that explaisn it really well with a formula, i was just estimating on memory
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:55 am Post subject:
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| ubermoose wrote: | I THINK it just rolls them separately.
So in total 20%ds and 20% crit would be 36% chance to do double dmg?
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it does get rolled seperately BUT it stops after the double damages roll, but you will have cb and ds hit at the same time
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Chance Double =CS + (DS/100)*(100-CS)
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| ATOMICMAN wrote: | | ubermoose wrote: | I THINK it just rolls them separately.
So in total 20%ds and 20% crit would be 36% chance to do double dmg?
Ofcourse i maybe [and probably am] wrong. |
it does get rolled seperately BUT it stops after the double damages roll, but you will have cb and ds hit at the same time |
So, the sites explain how the dmg is calculated? Cuz if CS, CB, DS all hit the same time you would end up with 8x dmg (2x2x2)?? 
With higher lvl duelers it is easy to hit 85+% DS which means basically you will almost always do dbl dmg. Toss in some % for cb and + to cs and technically you could stack double dmg some % of the time seems too good to be true.
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cb doesn't do double dmg, it does a fraction of the player's current life, and nope, as stated before, they can;t all hit at the same time, because you can't do more than double damage.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:50 am Post subject:
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c/b takes 1/6 life
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| sir_cyclops wrote: | | c/b takes 1/6 life |
O.o Ok now I'm really confused. They can all hit at the same time BUT they can't do more than double damage???
So, lemme see if I got it. Even though CB doesn't do double damage it can't roll at same time as something else. And, all of them are rolled but only ONE will hit if they happen to roll at the same time. Now, I wonder how they pick which one hits???
Basically answers my question tho cuz I was trying to figure which gear to use and originally I wanted as much CB, DS as possible so that I was always doing more dmg than listed. Now it almost seems like overkill... and it opens up more possibilities for me.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:27 am Post subject:
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CB takes 1/6th!? Why was I thinking it was 1/10th PvP...
So what about DS... does it cap like 'chance to hit' at 95%?
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cb is 1/10 in pvp.
1/16 with bows.
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| super-duder wrote: | CB takes 1/6th!? Why was I thinking it was 1/10th PvP...
So what about DS... does it cap like 'chance to hit' at 95%? |
like shdw said but there is no cap for either cb or ds (just no benifits for over 100%)
but you can only have one double damage roll per hit so if out of 20% ds on weap 10% ds on helm and you get a ds roll with the weapons ds you will not have another roll with your helm or any skills that offer critical damage
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I thought all the DS% from all your gear was added up and made just 1 roll. Not seperate rolls for each source of DS.
And yes, you can get cb and ds/crit to hit at the same time, but not crit and ds
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