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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject:  Am I a complete tool if?  

I use a .09 Azurewrath on my level 18 charger? is the deadly strike worth the loss of 600 max damage per charge?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:00 pm    Post subject:  

its ok if u dont got anything else..

but the socketed weapons are what i see work the best.. flails i think

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:01 pm    Post subject:  

My former main weapon was a 6-socket war axe jeweled out with +15 max's
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject:  

i dont play chargers. i cant give u an opinion on if ud be a "tool" for using the Azure..

it will depend on your dmg to begin with,, your setup.

what is your average dmg using the +90war axe,, and what is it with a +15Azure?


heres a slight example:

let say it was 2000 with the +90war axe, and 1400 (2000-600) with the +15azure

your avg dmg with the azure is (1400+ 1400*2)/2 = 2100

an increase of only 5% over the axe

u get cold.. and lower reqs.. but less range as well. again it will depend on what your dmg actually is

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject:  

Right now the Azure's clean, and I'm around 110-1730 or so on the charge with it, half that for a normal swing.

The +90 war axe is 110-2382 , again, half that for a normal swing.

The cold on Azure is useful, even though most everyone has cannot be frozen SOMEHOW on their duelers.

But, I still have to ask, is the deadly strike(50%) on the azure worth it? And if it is, is it worth dumping a decent to good jewel into it?

Thanks again.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject:  

well im the new guy so i dunno if ul listen to my info but..... i think u should use the war axe...it always does that much dmg... yes if the deadly strike works on the azure ul do about 3400, but thats only 30% of the time? i forgot the ds on azure. and war axe has better range!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject:  

Cancerofdabowel wrote:
110-1730

+90 war axe is 110-2382


youve lost 652 (2382-1730) with the azure wich means that approximatly
109 max dmg (652/6) is from each jewel in the war axe.

so your azure with this assumed +109 final dmg comes out to an davg of (110+1838)/2

wich after 50% deadly is avged = 1461 dmg each charge (974 avg 974*2) /2

the +90 war axe is doing (2383+110)/2 = 1246 each charge.

so the azure is working out to be better on avg.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:33 pm    Post subject:  

ugh cant log in....
anyways...yes azure averages better...but wat about the times when the ds dont work?!?!??!?!??!??!?!??!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:40 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah, I've never been a big fan of stacking DS or CB or whatever when I can stack up on big dmg items and charms. But that's just my personal preference.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:29 am    Post subject:  

i didnt think it would be better. unless u need les str req. but the range is less and that i hear is a problem.

the cold is worhtless imo, unless your PvR.. (wich is player vs retards) and who wants to do that.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:06 pm    Post subject:  

Jerkazoid.. that math seems odd, but I get the gist of it. Now if only I were allowed to take my charger to 30 so I could upgrade and then jewel my azure.... Sad

the lack of range.. is it really that important when it comes to charge? with zeal or even smite, I could understand, but charge?

Right now it looks like I'll stick with the Azure.. anyone interested in a +90 max/+14 defense war axe?

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Inexorable beat LittleKnarl, 4-3. Grumble grumble. My poor smiter.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject:  

U will get crushed by Shocked knight msg *low-rida2 if your a lvl 18
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject:  

I took him way past level 18 a long time ago. Besides... if I did remake to level 18 again you wouldn't have a chance. Wink
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