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Nosferatu · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject:

Hmmmm ok yes i upped the twitch and socketed it afetr i upped it..

still lvl 36 req so i think i migth as well go to 36.

im going to use

45 ias helm
upped twitch 35 ias
waterwalks 65life
deaths gloves/sash
1 angelic rin/amy
1 soj
20 ias kuko
My mana req will lower because lvl 20 guided wont be much mana

Thx for all yalls help and jerkazoid i dont think im the first im just making a post if i cant start a hate organization for white necros.. i might as well try and advertize even to noobs how to make them fall over the kuko..

and thx for the slow missle idea i completely forgot.

Phyre · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:58 pm Post subject:

According to the weapon speed calc here, you'd need 105 IAS for 8 frame Guided and 200 IAS for 8 frame. With your current build you have 130 IAS, thus you could switch out some IAS gear for something else to maintain the 8 frame guided since you don't meet the 7 frame breakpoint anyway.

As far as this zon beating a White necro, I don't know. Even if you use Slow Missiles, if the necro uses Decrep and Bone Prison combined with recasting Bone Armor I think you're still kinda screwed. I may be wrong since I have never seen a well built Kuko zon, but thats my hypothesis.

Nosferatu · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject:

Yup.. your right phyre so i ditched the upped ias twitch and went for the max twitch and now i think imma lose the gloves for maybe bfists and string.. thx..

meitou · Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661 4.11 Silvarrr

I think you can just forget about it....kuko zon will have no chance at all, no matter what, vs a decent lvl 35, even a lvl 30 bone necro.

Jerkazoid · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:00 pm Post subject:

lvl 35 zon... 65% avoid, 1200 life, 7 frame knockback GA.. but crappy dmg

it sounds like a lvl 35 zon could try to tank a 30 necro.. but i doubt it....
necro blocks 75%, absorbs the first,,,maybe 10 hits,.. and does way more, unresistable dmg.

Knarl · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:01 pm Post subject:

Nosferatu · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject:

I thoguht the same thing she is built she does well but havent duel any necs yet. but i got 1 50 spsnc already. ill keep posting to see how she does vs necs if it turns out well ill post my exact gear build and stats..
even every charm.
For all u white necros..

Jerkazoid · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject:

i was still thinking "tank"... but sure guerilla tactics would almost have to work....

a necro shouldnt be able to compete with an, equally-skilled-at-running-and-firing, GA zon ... the zon would be a real bitch though, sorta give it the bad rap its always had.. ...eh whats to lose.

VoicesLLD · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:35 am Post subject:

pros and cons for zon vs necro.
zon pros:
-can dodge spirits, spears, and golems.
-guided is faster than spirit
-valk (for attracting projectiles)
zon cons:
-bone armor blocks physical
-if the necro has high poison res and some length reduce, you;re screwed.
-valk has a cool down cast rate

necro pros: (since its public dueling)
-bone prison
-decrepify
-clay golem (for slow AND for attracting projectiles)
-golem has no cool down cast rate
-bone armor
necro cons:
-spirit is MUCH slower than guided

thats all i can think of.

ThatGuy · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:15 am Post subject:

meitou · Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661 4.11 Silvarrr

Hmm I know it won't work because I already tried it, I tried physical damage, poison damage, crushing blow, open wound, slow and knockback, slow missle and even 240% r/w, none is working well vs a good bone necro. Only other thing I could think of but didn't try, is life tap.

So good luck, and if your zon turn out to be good, I have to know how could you do that.

GODZ! · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject:

i have a fun lil zon. and your twitch will be lvl 30 after upgraded unless u ahve a rune or a jewel in there to up the lvl, just take it out then add the 15...

I did avoid instead of ne other passive. and crit.
i also did. life/fhr/r/w build but i talked to spazz to make it funnier, and added 200 r/w in charms. so... i run fast, have 600 life, and low dmg, but it works in pubbie duels, not too great in lld duels. though it still kills a few.

it's fun. and btw mines lvl 29.

Nosferatu · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:57 pm Post subject:

Uhhh hey godz maybe you should try the twitch thoery if u dont belive me i upped the twitch then put the jewel in still lvl 36 your right upped twitch is lvl 30 but a 15 ias jewel will make it 36..

GODZ! · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject:

is that why i have a twitch lvl 30 req?

Nosferatu · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject:

does it have an ias jewel in it?? No