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LLD101 Low Level Dueling in 1.12
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Dragon Knight 3
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 59 BNet Acct/Realm: E/L/HC... E/NL/HC...E/NL/SC
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject:
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Hello.
I've been lurking this board for a little over 2 weeks and I now decided to join. I know all the people, such as Knarl, Jerkazoid, ect.
I probably will never play with any of you, as I am East, Non-ladder and Hardcore.
I have several builds at the moment, which are:
Level 9 Throw Barb (558 life, ~200 damage)
Level 9 TS Asn (330 life, ~800 damage)
Level 12 Charger/Zealot Pally (500 life, ~450 charge)
Level 21 Rabies Druid (~780 life, 650+ poison)
Level 30 Bone Necro (~500 life, 300 damage)
In the working:
Remaking Level 9 Throw zon (400 life, ~150 damage [hardly takes any hits])
Level 18 Throw Barb, not sure how he will turn out.
Level 12 Fire Ball Sorc (100 fire damage)
I hope to contribute to this site and VLLD and LLD as well.
If you want to know gear/builds, I will gladly post.
See you then
_________________ TehUberQuillRat
Level 9 Barbarian
559 life
200 max damage
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meitou
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject:
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nice job on hardcore
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Knarl
You're Doomed
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 4254 BNet Acct/Realm: USWest NL: *IK_Knarl, *NewKnarl2
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:33 pm Post subject:
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I'd like your opinion on this:
I have been playing USWest HC Ladder for the last week or so with Voices, and I've noticed that whenever I go into pk games (low lvl or not)...NO ONE DUELS...EVER.
They just sit around at the edge of town talking trash and occasionally running out and running back in or TPing when they see someone follow.
Sometimes meleers will run out and whack away at each other, but they all have a belt-full of rejuvs, so they never die, and if they run out, they just run back into town.
So I ask...what is the point? I assume you duel mostly public games unless there is some secret hardcore underground LLD establishment that I'm not aware of. So basically, almost everyone is too scared to actually duel and they end up running back into town when they get close to dying. And I assume most pubbies will pot regardless of whether or not you ask them not to. So why put up with that?
At least in SC, you get the pleasure of killing your opponent as opposed to getting them close to death and having them pot and run away. So why put up with it? I suppose that if you actually are able to kill someone, it would be a rush, but if most people are too scared to allow that to happen, who do you duel?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing hc dueling at all, it's just that from what I've seen after observing some dueling games...there really doesn't seem to be much of a point if the majority of the people you see don't have the respect to duel correctly. Do you notice this too? And do you just have to put up with it, or is there actually a pretty well-represented HC llding population on east which you can duel with as opposed to just floundering in pubby games?
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Spazz
Victim of the BAN BLUDGEON
Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 2895 BNet Acct/Realm: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 2:03 am Post subject:
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I use to LLD-HC. You sit there, and literally shiver with fear of death when you run outside town.
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Account: -=-Spazz-=-
Realm: USEast
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Carousel - 57 Trap Assassin MLD
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Dragon Knight 3
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 59 BNet Acct/Realm: E/L/HC... E/NL/HC...E/NL/SC
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:40 am Post subject:
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Knarl..
Yes, I have seen this quite a few times, and believe me I know. But there are two clans that can be found, and I am in one. One is UHCM, the other Uber, which of course is mine. We usually duel UHCM whenever we see them. Another LLD clan is on the rise, however: FaC.
As you said before, they talk trash, which is usually when you pull out the tricks. Just get a friend to go outside, and attack them with a weak weapon or something of that nature. Then they will see you aren't that good. They usually leave town then, trying to kill you. Also, if you actually made your built correct, you should be able to kill them with ease. If you ever want i can show you my ears.
Spazz..
Did you not notice my characters have ample health, especially Quill?
And wow, I must say. That is probably the nicest post I have seen from Spazz. >_>
_________________ TehUberQuillRat
Level 9 Barbarian
559 life
200 max damage
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Spazz
Victim of the BAN BLUDGEON
Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 2895 BNet Acct/Realm: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 10:10 am Post subject:
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Don't get use to it
I was poor, so my gear was basically Sigons and chipped ruby helms
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Account: -=-Spazz-=-
Realm: USEast
Characters:
Carousel - 57 Trap Assassin MLD
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ThatGuy
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 1712 BNet Acct/Realm: MONTREAL YAA! Quit d2
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject:
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That's ownage
In 09, I tried to make hc chars with mega low-budget stuff, mainly throw barbs and stuff, to pk low lvl games. He had 2 rare axes, one with cold damage. I thought my barb was uber lol.
I went to a game and waited till they checked the looting. I hostiled them and attacked the nearest foe: a level 13 barb. Stupid me. I run up to him and star throwing. He dodges, and pulls out a staff of frost nova ><. I'm cold, I'm slow, and next moment I'm dead O_o
I tried making chars to go high and then buy better lld stuff, but I always died to stuff like dark shamans, afflicted and the occasional spider. I suck at hardcore.
That is an ownage barb, especially for a level 9, and even more especially cuz he's on HC. I salute you
Good luck in all your future duels!
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VoicesLLD
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 7401 BNet Acct/Realm: Recovering WoW addict.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject:
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yea, im giving up on hardcore for now, i think. after having my level 65 hammerdin tppk'd by a level 85ish necro in a cow run, i made a level 42 blizzard sorc, and was on the losing end of a duel with a level 38 chargadin. so yea...im going to put my hardcore adventures on pause for now.
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Dragon Knight 3
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 59 BNet Acct/Realm: E/L/HC... E/NL/HC...E/NL/SC
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject:
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Yeah, hardcore can do that to you. That's why my PvPs are only LLD, and never, ever go past 30. They also have nothing in stash besides changing gear, based on opponnent. Of course, high levels are fine too, but I do not like to duel with them.
Nobody wants to know my builds? T_T
_________________ TehUberQuillRat
Level 9 Barbarian
559 life
200 max damage
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ThatGuy
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 1712 BNet Acct/Realm: MONTREAL YAA! Quit d2
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject:
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I DO! *raises hand*
Well a lvl 9 throw barb I considered, but never put into effect, so wth what's he made up of? O_o
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Dragon Knight 3
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 59 BNet Acct/Realm: E/L/HC... E/NL/HC...E/NL/SC
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:40 am Post subject:
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Ok, here are some things I know offhand.
Stats:
Str: None
Dex: None
Vit: Everything
Enrg: None
Skills:
4 Throwing Mastery
1 Howl
4 Taunt
4 Shout
1 Leap
1 Bash
Gear:
3 flawed ruby mask
3 flawed ruby breast plate
Umbral Disk w/ 2 dex jewel
Bloodfist
Hsarus Belt
Chain boots (3 dex)
Rings: 2 dex each
Ammy /w 5 dex
Rare throwing spear, 43 max
Fill up on dex charms, as you will need them. You must hit 65 Dexterity to equip these spears. As you can see, this VLLD can dish out damage with his throwing mastery and excellent spear, but also is a great tank. With 65 dex, that is more than enough for 75% block with umbral disk. This barb should break 500 life easily, and just add in a few life/damage charms and he's good to go.
This barbarian is also efficient because he benefits the most from each point in Vitality.
The end stats should look like:
30 Str
65 Dex
~65 Vit (depending on rush)
15 Enrg
500+ life
150+ damage
75% block
~350+ defense
75% hit
Have fun
Edit: Depending on hell rush or not, take off points in Taunt first, then Shout.
_________________ TehUberQuillRat
Level 9 Barbarian
559 life
200 max damage
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xZephyrX
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 144
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:58 am Post subject:
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I played HC exclusively for a great deal of time. Usually the "manners " duels are arranged by clans. Also, most people who play HC successfully do so with the aid of a clan . With a clan on HC you can avoid pubs altogether therefore no tppk to worry about. I'm not sure about the rules on this site for talking about other sites but if you want to meet some nice people on HC Voices instead of quitting because of a bad pub experience let me know and i can point you to some really nice HC people. Most often you needn't join the clan to be added to a safelist if someone vouches for you. But Knarl is right...... pub pk is pretty nonexistent unless you want to make Ironman games. Those are fun too
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VoicesLLD
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 7401 BNet Acct/Realm: Recovering WoW addict.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject:
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iv got less time for d2 now, so its ok.
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