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Does ED/max bug affect kick damage?
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject:  Does ED/max bug affect kick damage?  

Does ED/max bug affect kick damage?

Kick damage is affected by off-weapon ED% although the bonus is display bugged so it won't show on the screen.

This make it hard to see if ED/max bug affect kick damage.

Does anyone know for sure? Or anyone ever tested it?
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject:  

afaik the ed% break is a feature on the jewel,,hypothetically... i think it will break?

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No actually the bug is when the game checks the dmg on the armor. the mechanic has something to do with the order the dmg is evaluated, kick seems immune due to it ignoring min/max
(i'm not sure if a Pul runes ed% will break from a +dmg added after.)

well you got my curious (SP)
i took a lvl 80 sin
slvl 1 talon -100%req myrmidons 20 str 20dex

the listed dmg was 112-198 (155 avg)
pvp dmg to naked Zon was
28
33
24
22
21
thats an avg of 150 listed

next i put on 155% ed (93% armor and 62% helm) something crazy happened, my listed dmg on the LCS went up 240-429 (334 avg)
pvp dmg to naked zon
47
71
50
68
43
58
that is an avg 330 listed

it would appear the LCS is listing the weapon ED% bonus

next i put in min-max jewels into the armor which would break ed%
58
44
72
66
54
that is 345 listed avg

also let me say that i tried this with hand made jewels (picking the affixs in hero editor) and then cubed some jewels "naturally" to get the ed% and min-max affixes the computer picks
results are the same

is it possible the bug is fixed? though i would certainly want someone to test with a throw out ed% and min-max jewel on closed with any skill such as zeal etc. in any case i have no reason to believe off ed% breaks from min/max with regard to kicking

[edit] this is Odd, the LCS is displaying things are fixed.
punch
zeal with a fist
zeal with a sword
the Bug is fixed in Open as far as the LCS says

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject:  

Great test, thanks!

So it's ok to use ed/max or ed/min jewels for kicker.

As for the LCS, actually I am not sure if it was/is display bugged. I had the impression that it was, just like smite and precasting Holyshield on switch. And on bnet when I gear a 20%ED shield, the dragon talon damage does not change at all. But maybe if I use a much higher ed% gear I would see the effect on the character screen. Or maybe it's different on bnet and on open.

But in any case, your test says the ed/min ed/max bug does not affect kick damage.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject:  

I made an error in this test.

adding a 20%ed jewel into gear
THEN a min/max will NOT break the ed%

putting min/max into gear
THEN a 20% ed jewel will break the ed%

i added ed% first, thus the test was inaccurate for double mod jewels
double mod (ed% WITH +dmg) will break the ed% as well.

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