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SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr

ok so i want to make a lvl 30 mauler. possibly norm rushed but nontheless, i've got some item ideas so far. 6 shael Crowbill (not naga cuz i don't want to spend the extra str, and not 5 shael 1 eth. i want the speed), 'peace', angelics (ofc), goblin toes. now i have been tossing up either 'rhyme' grim shield (15ed i have) and 15dr string, or whitstans, death sash.

i'm undecided on gloves, whether they be venomgrips or bloodfists. i know that a 3soc +3 Maul helm is nice, with +1 shockwave and/or + werebear, + lycanth, though i'll prolly settle for a vision mod helm or peasant crown till i can upgrade him. i have a Visionary Great helm of balance (10fhr) that i'm hoping will get 2 socs. if so, and i use it as a temporary helm, what is best perhaps, to socket it with? pdiamonds for nice ar boost, prubys for life, shaels for a total of 50fhr or other stuff?

i would like to use the venomhide/goblin toe combo, tho there is great bonuses from bloodfists instead, eg the nice fhr. i want 2nd best bp for fhr, either that or max, tho i can't see that happening when i will want to have lots of max/ar and lifer scs.

any help is welcomed and appreciated.

ty =)

ps. i'm not that rich on rare jewels however i did find my first 15maxer, and i have a decent 20ed +2 str -15req jewl, tho i wouldn't want to waste my 15maxer unless i'm completely certain.

Squirlz · Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:33 am Post subject:

You are going to want bloodfists for sure. the FHR and life is really helpful. Also rhyme and string is your best bet. You might want to use Cow King boots or Sanders instead of goblins for the stat bonus. Sanders are nice for the AR. If you do not Hell rush you will have barley any stats left for vitality after max block.

SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr

thanks a lot, that was very helpful =) in that case i'd prolly go with Sanders for the nice ar and faster run walk than CK

Jerkazoid

if u need FHR (which u only need 42% = 4 frames as wolf) then shaeling gear makes more sense then FHR charms.
however i think u want +dmg for the most part.

Grim04 · Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject:

6 shael war axe is still range 3.

SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr

SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr

Jerkazoid · Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject:

sacrificing +20max for 27stats
(remember the stats also lower ed%)

how about militay pick then? 9avg from 14avg..
-5avg to save another 18stats

once u relate it to %'s; how much %dmg do u loose and how much %life do u gain from this exchange?

also, might not be right on this, but Life has a diminishing effect. while dmg experiences an asymptotic increase.

SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr

ok so a 6 soc military pick and war axe are easier to come by, but if it was your char, what would u go with? even if it was the military pick to see how much life you get, i'd be keen to know what u think.

ty

Jerkazoid · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject:

i dont see any problem with dropping a little dmg to a mil pick just from a guess, cept range, so i think a 6sheal war axe is the better middle, save some stats but still get r3.

iv never made a mauler so i dont know the baseline setup nor the ideas on improving it; i mentioned wolf fhr bp's... maul is a BEAR.. durrrrrr
so i already failed. after looking over these setup variations, its way too complicated for me to gloss over these sorta numbers.

i checked some threads in the search.

http://lld101.com/viewtopic.php?search_id=369896430&t=18456
http://lld101.com/viewtopic.php?search_id=369896430&t=15514
http://lld101.com/viewtopic.php?t=35486&search_id=369896430&start=15
http://lld101.com/viewtopic.php?search_id=369896430&t=40873

most people say go for life.
your AR will suck so u need to think on that.
i dont recomend visionary i think 19maul +3helm for 230%ar is the way to go and a 30% mod is only effective 13% on a dimishing return
maybe sheal whistsans would help overall 5frame block... ?
go for max 5frame attack speed ofcourse.

Squirlz · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:25 am Post subject:

Whistsnas will save stats but you are loosing valuable dr. My mauler has about 2k life and 4.4kar. I use a dimensional blade for the little more damage but not as high str req but it only has a range of 2 like the military pick. I wish i had more ar but you also sacrafice life for it with charms. I originally built this as a cheap build to get me started. Now that i have the gear it is a pretty fun char. Not good vrs casters or WW barbs but a nice fun pub dueler with lots of life. You can tank pretty much any pub under lvl 48 or higher.

If i were to rebuild i would consider using a war axe, it would add a considerable amount of life. I think with my lvl of lycan i am around +200% life. so 18 stats that i would save would add about 100life, damage would be a little less because of less str and lower weap damage, but with crit you can make that up. And in that case you can use a few more max/ar charms to get the ar up which would increase your chance to hit thus increasing your damage per second. You can have 6k damage but with 3ar it does you no good. All in all i would say war axe is your best bet since you can stack up on max/ar charms.

SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr

thanks alot for that feedback Squirlz. that was very helpful, especially since it was hands-on advice. i have decided i'll go with the war axe option, and although i don't have any good max/ar charms on ladder atm, i can always keep upgrading as i get them, and if need be, remake.

SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr

well its been quite a while since i was asking info on item choices for my werebear. i have done very well and he is currently geared with 6 shael 15ed war axe, 15ed 'peace' mp, 15ed Rhyme grim shield, sanders, 1 soj, angelics, peasant crown (temp helm till i find a +3 maul pelt), bloodfists, -15%req sigs shield, spirit and +2 SS ammy for prebuff, 15%dr 14mdr string. 8 x 10max/60+ar gcs and 10 x very nice 3max/17+ ar sc's, some with mods.

i have 1013 life atm, max block, 78-512 dmg with 5564ar (without wolverine, got it tho)

i was thinking tho.. now my gear setup is good, should i ditch the peace for a 3/80 armor with maxers, and ditch the soj for a 2nd angelic ring? perhaps also exchange a few max/ar scs for 15lifers?

ty

Squirlz · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:47 am Post subject:

you life seems a little low. I would swap out some max/ar charms for lifers. Also try the other angelic since you will be loosing some AR. I would shoot for 1500 life and see what your ar comes to. Also add heart of wolverine and let us know what everything is.

SSIKness666 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 87 2.39 Silvarrr