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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject:  Wolfbarb Questions  

Ok so... I need to decide what weapon to use.

Grief Pb or Gris Weapon.

7 fpa vs 5 fpa

I'll hit 5fpa with 4x 40ed/15ias Gris or 7Fpa with Grief.

If the damage difference is considerate, then I'll have to choose grief... but if it's close I'd much rather take the speed.

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject:  

Grief's damage will probably overshadow a Caddy, but you will be much, much slower. If it's possible I'd keep both weapons, and experiment with each to see which you like more. Personally if Grief's speed isn't too noticably slower, I'd choose that, but if you find you can't get any hits off because of the slower speed, use Caddy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject:  

I've always been under the impression Caddy was better. You should ask zeb though! SS drood king.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject:  

I'm probably going to end up using Grief, but I'm still not 100% sure.

I'm going to both weapons in stash though.

I've heard that wereform central ias calc is bugged using Feral Rage and that I should use norm attack... but I swear I'm hitting 4fpa using it so I don't know what to think.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject:  

Wereform central appears not to be glitched... ias bp seem accurate.

After testing on open, it seems grief only does 30% more than robo gris caddy... not the 2.5x Krajee told me.

So... I'm going with Gris caddy and having a stashed grief.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject:  

I was talking about weapon damage, not final damage, when I said 2.5 (which I later corrected to 2.2). I can't calculate or even give a rough estimate of final damage without knowing all the other goodies.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject:  

Well I figured weapon damage = final damage too...

Anyways I have to recalculate.

I was using Zombies from Act 1 as example.

Gris Caddy has like 250ed vs undead... so that may play a factor.

Going to test in Act 4.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject:  

Horizon's Tornado With a Shael is also a nifty choice, IF ofc, you don't mind the 20% slow.
Otherwise, a Cruel Scourge of Quickness with two 40ed/15ias Jewels or an ed/ias + w/e u wish Griz caddy, aslong as you pull 70 ias.> 4 Shael Caddy IMO, you only loose 1 frame, but you gain a bunch of damage (Melee only). When dueling casters, zons or w/e that relys on running and keeping distance speed rules so keep the 4 Shael Caddy.
Obviously unless you have insane charms, you aren't going to do huge amounts of damage so crushing blow is a must vs anything with mass hp.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject:  

Gris Caddy seems the best overall choice.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject:  

With my experiences with wolf barbs, Gris Caddys are the best to use. Good, strong and fast. Speed is thing you really want with this build.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject:  

AmishSpeedGoat wrote:
With my experiences with wolf barbs, Gris Caddys are the best to use. Good, strong and fast. Speed is thing you really want with this build.


You left me Sad.

Yes, gris caddy is far superior than any other weapon I've tried... I might try to get a non-eth tomb reaver and 3 shaels for 5fpa to have a chance against smiters...

I have a res problem, I need to get some res charms looks like... 20/75/80/20... so ya, any facets rape me... and I get 2-3 hitted by fb sorcs atm...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject:  

Grim04 wrote:
AmishSpeedGoat wrote:
With my experiences with wolf barbs, Gris Caddys are the best to use. Good, strong and fast. Speed is thing you really want with this build.


You left me Sad.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject:  

Grim04 wrote:
AmishSpeedGoat wrote:
With my experiences with wolf barbs, Gris Caddys are the best to use. Good, strong and fast. Speed is thing you really want with this build.


You left me Sad.

Yes, gris caddy is far superior than any other weapon I've tried... I might try to get a non-eth tomb reaver and 3 shaels for 5fpa to have a chance against smiters...

I have a res problem, I need to get some res charms looks like... 20/75/80/20... so ya, any facets rape me... and I get 2-3 hitted by fb sorcs atm...


reaver gives resists

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject:  

Also only gives 5fpa... and I lose the cold res and lit res from SS.

I still need to get one though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject:  

I have a wolf on west if you ever want to hook-up.

I have remade 4(mace/axe/sword/sword) so far. My final result is the best, but I still need to tweak again. Grizz is faster, but power+speed of GriefPB wins. If I had 40x3/20/20's maybe Grizz, but that will never happen with me. Tombreaver is a must for casters, but smiters are a problem. You can beat the non-experienced smiter, but even a good one will win. Sorcs will just tele the whole duel, so I use sorb gear(that's HLD) and don't feel bad at all. My wolf is close to 10k life, and has 24k AR.
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