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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject:  charm question  

are there any max dmg lvl 12 charms at all? if so are they worth using?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject:  

I believe Fine GC of Str/Dex(1-3 max dmg/xx ar/6 stats) are the best( ilvl around 14~?)
6 stats = 18 life(24 for barb)

3x 15 life LCs = 45 life
2x stat GCs = 36 life

hm.. imo they are worth using to reach str/dex for gear

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject:  

herro hong.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject:  

Hong10 wrote:
I believe Fine GC of Str/Dex(1-3 max dmg/xx ar/6 stats) are the best( ilvl around 14~?)
6 stats = 18 life(24 for barb)

3x 15 life LCs = 45 life
2x stat GCs = 36 life

hm.. imo they are worth using to reach str/dex for gear

ps: hai fyar ;D


I think the tradeoff is a bit worse than you describe. With every good GC, you're also forced to pair it with a shitty SC.

The tradeoff is more like this:

4x15life LCs = 60 life
2x stat GC + 2x stat SCs = 42 life, and 3 max damage

If your paladin uses charge a lot I'd recommend 15/12 life/mana LCs above all else.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject:  

actually lets make it a bit better at comparing:

2x ar/life lcs or mana/life lcs --> 13-25x2:26-50 ar OR 8-12x2:16-24 mana with 28-30life

gc+sc --> 3max/20ar/15life + 1stat/2-7mana

if you really need the dmg I'd suggest going for atleast 5xgcs+5xscs +10x lcs.

my lvl12 mauler (built for vlld melee arena) uses 7xgcs+7xscs+6xlcs as of now because I cant find those kind of lcs easily.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject:  

eAr_gOd wrote:
Hong10 wrote:
I believe Fine GC of Str/Dex(1-3 max dmg/xx ar/6 stats) are the best( ilvl around 14~?)
6 stats = 18 life(24 for barb)

3x 15 life LCs = 45 life
2x stat GCs = 36 life

hm.. imo they are worth using to reach str/dex for gear

ps: hai fyar ;D


I think the tradeoff is a bit worse than you describe. With every good GC, you're also forced to pair it with a shitty SC.

The tradeoff is more like this:

4x15life LCs = 60 life
2x stat GC + 2x stat SCs = 42 life, and 3 max damage

If your paladin uses charge a lot I'd recommend 15/12 life/mana LCs above all else.

this actually isnt for my paladin. this is actually for my barb i just made. i know...its crazy. i've fallen in love with barbs. my pali phase is paused for the time being.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject:  

fyarbeast wrote:

this actually isnt for my paladin. this is actually for my barb i just made. i know...its crazy. i've fallen in love with barbs. my pali phase is paused for the time being.


In that case, I'd go GCs all the way. I have some on NL if you need any Smile.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject:  

eAr_gOd wrote:
fyarbeast wrote:

this actually isnt for my paladin. this is actually for my barb i just made. i know...its crazy. i've fallen in love with barbs. my pali phase is paused for the time being.


In that case, I'd go GCs all the way. I have some on NL if you need any :).

so lemme get this straight. 6stat gc's will have a better net result/life gain then using 15 lifers???

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject:  

4:1 for barbs, 6stats saved pump 6vitality = 24 life.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject:  

fyarbeast wrote:
eAr_gOd wrote:
fyarbeast wrote:

this actually isnt for my paladin. this is actually for my barb i just made. i know...its crazy. i've fallen in love with barbs. my pali phase is paused for the time being.


In that case, I'd go GCs all the way. I have some on NL if you need any Smile.

so lemme get this straight. 6stat gc's will have a better net result/life gain then using 15 lifers???


6stat GC + 1stat SC = 7 stats = 28 life on a barb
2x 15life LCs = 30 life

you'll lose 2 life per 4 slots, but gain a nice chunk of max damage.

Large charms have the potential to give better mana/AR bonuses, but for the best balance I would use as many stat GCs/ SCs as possible until you reach your stat requirements.

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