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peterpaulrubens
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject:
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HI kids,
I've started leveling my bone necro. My question is, is a point in Weaken worth it? It seems like a great deal for 1 point. However, I won't have great gear so I won't be rolling with uber +skills, so I'm wondering if I'll need the synergy damage.
Thanks,
PPR
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject:
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Totally, go for it.
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krajee
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject:
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Just remember that you can always find a +spear or spirit head with weaken or other curses on it, too.
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oleo79
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 1092 BNet Acct/Realm: USWest nonladder + ladder
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject:
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krajee wrote: | Just remember that you can always find a +spear or spirit head with weaken or other curses on it, too. |
And if you need one, I have one. I'd save the point, and just get a head with it.
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MiKTeX
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject:
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Is weaken considered BM? I know decrepify is. If weaken is safe, then I might go for getting a head/putting a point in there, as well.
It is a pity that decrepify is so unfair. It's such an evil spell.
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peterpaulrubens
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:
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MiKTeX wrote: | Is weaken considered BM? I know decrepify is. If weaken is safe, then I might go for getting a head/puttin |
AFAIK Weaken is not considered BM. Decrep is BM because of the slow, which Weaken doesn't have.
Thanks for the input guys. I'll try to get a head with a Weaken staffmod. Failing that I'll put a point in it.
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MortisNostre
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:48 am Post subject:
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is this on east or west PPR?
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peterpaulrubens
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:55 am Post subject:
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West NL. That's where all my wealth is, and JohnDoe's massive giveaway finally put me at "LLD critical mass".. the point where I have too much decent-to-good LLD gear to ignore it any more. I've finally gotten around to making the build I theorized here.
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MortisNostre
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:25 am Post subject:
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hah...awsome...
had you been east L or NL, I could have hooked you up even more...
anyway, make sure to keep me posted...id like to hear a) how your necro fairs, b) how you like LLD
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:58 am Post subject:
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Weaken is pretty ineffective... a lot of people have misconceptions on how it works.
When it says -33% damage, it means -33% ED and NOT -33% total damage.
For example, if your opponent is a charger, and has lvl 20 charge for like 1000 ED, weaken will bring the ED from charge from 1000 ED to 967 ED. If a zealot has 500 ED, they'll be brought down to 467 ED. Same with barbs and mastery, etc. In other words, weaken is pretty worthless and does closer to 3% damage reduction than 33%.
Also, don't spend a real point on any curses you can get on a switch necro head... you want to put as many skill points as you can into the synergies for spirit/spear.
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peterpaulrubens
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:
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eAr_gOd wrote: |
When it says -33% damage, it means -33% ED and NOT -33% total damage.
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OOF... really? In that case it's not worth casting in a duel at all, except maybe vs. kickers. And definitely not worth a hard point, nor paying a lot for a nice head with Weaken on it.
Did you actually test it like that?
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject:
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thats just how it works
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Waramp
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject:
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ww barbs often have -%ed or close to 0, it might be good for dueling them. but in any regard, its not worth a point in
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject:
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Hey I saw you were looking for a rhyme head with +bs? At least I think I did, I have one with +ed and +3bspirit you can have for free
Pm me if you want it (it's west NL right?)
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