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Level 30 Bone Necro - 1 point in Weaken worth it?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject:  Level 30 Bone Necro - 1 point in Weaken worth it?  

HI kids,

I've started leveling my bone necro. My question is, is a point in Weaken worth it? It seems like a great deal for 1 point. However, I won't have great gear so I won't be rolling with uber +skills, so I'm wondering if I'll need the synergy damage.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject:  

Totally, go for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject:  

Just remember that you can always find a +spear or spirit head with weaken or other curses on it, too.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject:  

krajee wrote:
Just remember that you can always find a +spear or spirit head with weaken or other curses on it, too.


And if you need one, I have one. I'd save the point, and just get a head with it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject:  

Is weaken considered BM? I know decrepify is. If weaken is safe, then I might go for getting a head/putting a point in there, as well.


It is a pity that decrepify is so unfair. It's such an evil spell. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject:  

MiKTeX wrote:
Is weaken considered BM? I know decrepify is. If weaken is safe, then I might go for getting a head/puttin


AFAIK Weaken is not considered BM. Decrep is BM because of the slow, which Weaken doesn't have.

Thanks for the input guys. I'll try to get a head with a Weaken staffmod. Failing that I'll put a point in it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject:  

is this on east or west PPR?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject:  

West NL. That's where all my wealth is, and JohnDoe's massive giveaway finally put me at "LLD critical mass".. the point where I have too much decent-to-good LLD gear to ignore it any more. Very Happy I've finally gotten around to making the build I theorized here.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject:  

hah...awsome...
had you been east L or NL, I could have hooked you up even more...

anyway, make sure to keep me posted...id like to hear a) how your necro fairs, b) how you like LLD

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject:  

Weaken is pretty ineffective... a lot of people have misconceptions on how it works.

When it says -33% damage, it means -33% ED and NOT -33% total damage.

For example, if your opponent is a charger, and has lvl 20 charge for like 1000 ED, weaken will bring the ED from charge from 1000 ED to 967 ED. If a zealot has 500 ED, they'll be brought down to 467 ED. Same with barbs and mastery, etc. In other words, weaken is pretty worthless and does closer to 3% damage reduction than 33%.

Also, don't spend a real point on any curses you can get on a switch necro head... you want to put as many skill points as you can into the synergies for spirit/spear.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject:  

eAr_gOd wrote:

When it says -33% damage, it means -33% ED and NOT -33% total damage.


OOF... really? In that case it's not worth casting in a duel at all, except maybe vs. kickers. And definitely not worth a hard point, nor paying a lot for a nice head with Weaken on it.

Did you actually test it like that?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject:  

thats just how it works
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject:  

ww barbs often have -%ed or close to 0, it might be good for dueling them. but in any regard, its not worth a point in
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject:  

Hey I saw you were looking for a rhyme head with +bs? At least I think I did, I have one with +ed and +3bspirit you can have for free Razz

Pm me if you want it (it's west NL right?)
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