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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject:  Something about FHR  
Is it still the loss of 1/12 of one's total life that would cause FHR stun?

I noticed this when my barb duel a necro. My barb has 1820 life and the max spirit damage of the necro is 800, and my barb is getting FHR stun. If it's still 1/12, then my barb won't get FHR stun once he had 1600+ life.

Anyone got any idea?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject:  
If I remember correctly, certain skills always put people into fhr, but I'm not sure if bone spirit accounts for that.

Best example I can think of is fireball, which I have witnessed from experiance. I noticed that, when I was dueling my friend's windy, he would sorb/stack me to a point that I only did like, a 100 damage a hit, but I would still see him fhr animations.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject:  
When I put SOE( 15mdr) on my barb, or give it high lvl BO so it has 2800+ life, these's no FHR stun.

Fireball doesn't always stun either.
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Well then I'm stumped. I know fireball stuns, but I guess it's only sometimes.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject:  
stumped.
1/12 is reported as the value

how bout an 800 bone spear,hammer,, or any other 800 listed attack?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject:  
Jerkazoid wrote:
stumped.
1/12 is reported as the value

how bout an 800 bone spear,hammer,, or any other 800 listed attack?


I only tried it vs bone spirit. While my barb had 1727 life with no mdr, it won't be stun by bs with 653 max damage, always be stun by bs with 698-769 damage, and be stun sometimes by bs with 644-711.

So the threshhold for stunning 1727 life must be between 653-698.
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the low end of that damage is taking about 1/16th of your health, and the upper end is taking just over 1/14

weird, maybe since the listed dmg for bs is over what 1/12 of your health would be thats why its putting you into fhr animation? idk...thats just weird
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the reason an fb sorc can "stun" a windy is probably because the fbs are interrupting his attempt to teleport or cast nado. he's not stunned though, he could run a few steps and then teleport.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject:  
Waramp wrote:
the reason an fb sorc can "stun" a windy is probably because the fbs are interrupting his attempt to teleport or cast nado. he's not stunned though, he could run a few steps and then teleport.


I think Stun is caused only by FHR animation. When you are in FHR animation, you can still walk/run, but casting spells will be interrupted, and completely impossible if your casting speed is slower than certain frames.
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Being put in hit recovery interrupts walking/running...
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Ehhh wrote:
Being put in hit recovery interrupts walking/running...


Yeah, but it takes less time to initiate walking/running. That's why sometimes you can only run out but not tele out ot traps.

Anyway this has nothing to do with the topic.
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oh it does. the reason you can run out but not tele out of traps is because there's no "animation time" for running, you start to move right when you click. but with teleporting, you have to wait for the 8 or 9 frame cast animation, and by that time you've usually been hit by another trap or mb and are back in fhr animation
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject:  
meitou wrote:

So the threshhold for stunning 1727 life must be between 653-698.


i really have no clue at all

3 options i can sorta see

1) life/12 is wrong (doubtfull)
2) BS has some bug (possible)
3) pvp dmg for FHR calc is missing something between 17% pvp calc

then there are the crazy issues.
4) this is a barb issue with +life things
5) this is a +life issue
6) xxxxxx weirdo witch stuff

first, dont use any shouts. or +life buffs.
only test i can think of is to rule out Magic; if 653 dmg from Bspear and hammer does not do it as well, asume BS has a bug with it.

if those cause FHR
the see if 653 from cold and fire dont do it, if not assume its magic dmg i suppose

and if those cause FHR.
probably FHR 1/12 is goofy .....for.... i have no idea what reasons though
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Jerkazoid wrote:
meitou wrote:

So the threshhold for stunning 1727 life must be between 653-698.


i really have no clue at all

3 options i can sorta see

1) life/12 is wrong (doubtfull)
2) BS has some bug (possible)
3) pvp dmg for FHR calc is missing something between 17% pvp calc

then there are the crazy issues.
4) this is a barb issue with +life things
5) this is a +life issue
6) xxxxxx weirdo witch stuff

first, dont use any shouts. or +life buffs.
only test i can think of is to rule out Magic; if 653 dmg from Bspear and hammer does not do it as well, asume BS has a bug with it.

if those cause FHR
the see if 653 from cold and fire dont do it, if not assume its magic dmg i suppose

and if those cause FHR.
probably FHR 1/12 is goofy .....for.... i have no idea what reasons though


Yeah that's all possible. I was hoping that someone had done testing them, lol.
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