Which Summoners do you think are better for low level dueling? |
Summoning Spells Necromancers |
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Summoning Druids |
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Puddles
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject:
Summoners as Low Level Duelers? |
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I've been wondering about low level duelers that has never been made before. I'm thinking of two characters that I have wondered if they are good for low level dueling. The two characters that I was wondering about are Summoning Spells Necromancers and Summoning Druids. Are they any good at dueling if they are level 30? I've only heard that Summoning Spells Necromancer and Summoning Druids were only good for "Player versus Monster", but is that true? If these characters are any good at low level dueling, which one is stronger and better? I always thought watching your summons duel was fun. Also, do they both cause "lag" in games?
*Also, by "low level duelers", I meant level 30 duelers.
Comments and vote plx.
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Waramp
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject:
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apparently summon druids can work. but you need to be a werebear and use shockwave. or a town summon bear, but that sucks at lvl 30. necros need a telestaff to be any good, and even then i cant see them doing very well
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Shieron
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject:
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I've seen summon necromancers do well, but only with telestaff.
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Hades
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject:
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I highly doubt you will come up with a build that no one has come up with before. But you could make a build that people dont currently have and make it more viable. But usually this requires alot of time and resources. So unless you have the expenditure and time don't expect many of your off the wall builds to be extremely viable vs most cookie cutters as they are cookie cutters for a reason.
On the other hand last ladder season I made a lvl 29 summon Nec mostly to gamble lvl 18 circlets, but it also did extremely well vs stoopid IK ww barbs that used to think they were god's gift when they tried killing LLD games. But Iron maiden/Edge runewrod(thorns aura) summons and a few bonewalls soon got them highly embarrased and me with more money to gamble with
But yeah vs other lld's I cant see this being highly effective other than vs pubs or badly skilled/built/played llders.
my 2p.
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inane-fedaykin
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:
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You'll only do well with a summoner against melee chars because you rely on thorns or iron maiden to do damage. Casters will just laugh, laugh and spam spells.
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Meegz ?
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject:
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inane-fedaykin wrote: | You'll only do well with a summoner against melee chars because you rely on thorns or iron maiden to do damage. Casters will just laugh, laugh and spam spells. |
until they find themselves amp'd with a nec full of summons tele'd on top of them. then they die very quickly
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Naruto-QoG
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:55 am Post subject:
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Okay make a summon druid. you can either go ful summon hide in town summon bear then switch to edge Runeword and let you bear kill every thing or summon bear turn were bear with shockwave with better gear then switch to edge for your bear. Edge works better on bear then any other summon
(too lazy to type all gear)
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Arbedark
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:25 am Post subject:
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Naruto-QoG wrote: | Okay make a summon druid. you can either go ful summon hide in town summon bear then switch to edge Runeword and let you bear kill every thing or summon bear turn were bear with shockwave with better gear then switch to edge for your bear. Edge works better on bear then any other summon
(too lazy to type all gear) |
Viability?
And go on with all the gear
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FudGe
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject:
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Shieron wrote: | I've seen summon necromancers do well, but only with telestaff. |
tric had one, it was pretty cool
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ulez
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject:
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dsm-hades wrote: | I highly doubt you will come up with a build that no one has come up with before. |
My lvl 30 barb Drones is my own original build, by that i mean i use 2 cutlesses
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just shdw
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject:
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necro summoners are classified melee
amp them clay golem edge bow for thorns and just avoid them if they try to hit your skellies they will get owned.
and with a tele staff my 30 summoner idi really well vs aloit of chars xcept casters because blizz or whatever does some damage ay
but amp, bone prison, tele and there goners. especially if you have an eth honor lance merc with max dmg jewels and the like. skellies can pack a punch, its usually one tele boom dead or tele they get into fhr lock maybe 1 into revive and get some gargantuan beatsts so you cant be clicked on when teleing.
very fun dueler but raising army all the time is bit of a hassle
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Mimes
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject:
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id go with nec. your going to have to pick your battles tho. if u try to duel lots of casters its going to be a pain to have to get all your revives back. also you might want to make a nec like eAr_god has.
its a fire golem/boneprison nec. he bps the shit out of people then pops his golems on them. ofc your nec would need a 17med staff. but you might be able to go hybrid summon nec/this build.
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Shieron
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject:
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FudGe wrote: | Shieron wrote: | I've seen summon necromancers do well, but only with telestaff. |
tric had one, it was pretty cool |
Yeah, when I said I've seen summon necromancers do well, what I really meant to say is I've seen one good summoner necromancer, referring to him of course.
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xxrebornxx
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:38 am Post subject:
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ive made both with good gear and i gotta say necro rape melee while the druid is more for casters and melee
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clan_iraq
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:33 am Post subject:
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Summoner guide:
http://lld101.com/viewtopic.php?t=43786
Completely destroys melee but you need tele staff against most casters
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