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Roy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

Meegz, the point that Dao is making is that the discipline system here is supposed to work both as (1) a punishment and (2) a deterrent.

If people are going to use the lack of a tag as a justification for continued bad behavior, then the deterrent aspect isn't working properly. The admins are responsible for taking steps to curtail the undesired behavior.

Virtuous, I don't really know where you get off insulting Dao for absolutely no reason, but that's the sort of thing that should get you skipped right to Ball 4. Breakbeatz is at least trying to add to this discussion; you've contributed absolutely nothing.

It's funny how you bitch about subjective moderating, yet you go out of your way to provoke and insult the moderating staff. If anything, your continued presence in this thread suggests that the moderating here isn't nearly subjective enough.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

Any mod/admin can and should operate (when neccessary) under the clause: "If your an asshat, we wont hesistate to baninate, warn, or otherwise bitchslap you with our modsticks"

In other words, subjective moderation is neccessary, and having a moderating team safeguards against personal vendettas.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

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If people are going to use the lack of a tag as a justification for continued bad behavior, then the deterrent aspect isn't working properly. The admins are responsible for taking steps to curtail the undesired behavior.


I understand this, what I have a problem with is Dao's continued flaming towards Break, when he knows that if Break responds, he can and will ban him. Its incredibly hypocritical and a bad quality to have in an admin for a web-board.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

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If people are going to use the lack of a tag as a justification for continued bad behavior, then the deterrent aspect isn't working properly. The admins are responsible for taking steps to curtail the undesired behavior.


You should change the discipline system so that it doesn't have easily exploitable loopholes.

It would be pretty easy to include language to address repeat offenders, rather than let the mods ban whoever they want without adhering to their own system.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

breakbeatz2 wrote:

It would be pretty easy to include language to address repeat offenders, rather than let the mods ban whoever they want without adhering to their own system.


We can easily update the rules to state that someone with a "Thin Ice" tag is permanently one step away from banning. But really, for all but a few users here that's not necessary. There are very few perpetual malcontents left here.

@Virtuous: Wink You're not nearly as funny or clever as you think. But go ahead with that, if it makes you happy.

@Meegz: You and I are at opposite ends of the conversation here. You clearly don't seem to follow my logic, and I'm frankly lost in regards to yours.

Let's just look at some facts here, yes?

1. This board is a private entity. "Rules" of any sort are a luxury, not a privilege. Zharous (and by extension, us) can ban anyone we want at any time, for any reason. We don't owe you or anyone anything. I know this sounds cruel and capricious, but it's absolutely true of ANY website ANYWHERE on the internet. You have no "right" or "privilege" to access this site, save what you are given.

2. The mod staff and admins are charged with maintaining the website as we feel it best serves the overall community. The only system of "checks and balances" that exists is Zharous stripping our admin privileges, which he has so far seen fit not to do.

Short version: I don't know why you people think you can do what you want here. You can't. Picking fights with the mod staff would have gotten BB banned off every other website known to man. That he's still here is an example of our tolerance, not our persecution. And if you think I'm "flaming" him, Meegz, then you sure as hell don't know *my* history here.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

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Short version: I don't know why you people think you can do what you want here.


Well basically when you flame me and my fellow East NL players (or East Coast Whiners Krew as you call us) it makes us want to flame back.

So we flame back after you set the example and we get balled/banned for doing so.

It's really pretty simple.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

I don't recall any admins or mods going out of our way to insult other members, and branding labels. You say we're oppressive, unfair, and etc, yet our reactions are dicated by your actions. As I recall, the actions we take are soley dependant on what you do.

In the end, why can't people just swallow their pride and just, not say anything?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

Your history on this site is not what's in question Dao, its your failure to act like someone who's an admin here. If you set a bad example, why the hell should anyone do what you tell them? No one should have to respect the wishes of a hypocrite.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

oops..uh_o

edit: oleo..yes indeed..i'll just tiptoe out the back way..

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

Wow I step away frmo my thread for a day or two, come back, and BAM! Make your own damn thread if you wanna flame guys, geez I just wanted a neutral discussion...

@Dao: Bribing krajee/Gheed (unintentionally, as I used to think he was a cool guy) never worked for me. And that was BEFORE he was a mod, too!

@skulls: I think you entered in the wrong room, pilgrim. It's messy in here.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

@BB: Instead of trying to find loopholes in the rules, why not just follow them?

@Meegz: If you actually read Dao's posts, he almost never flames people. Stating facts, isn't a flame.

@Krajee: Do I still hold the record of the most Ball 1's w/o ever going to a Ball 2? Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

El oh el @:
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@skulls: I think you entered in the wrong room, pilgrim. It's messy in here.
Hehehe, pilgrim.
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