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D00m
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 202 BNet Acct/Realm: US East [NL] *j828war2
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:35 pm Post subject:
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im making a lvl 30 hydra sorc and it will have max fireball (syn) and almost max bolt (syn) after that. i have a perfect magi with p ruby and some other ok items but im still looking for better.
i was just wondering since my main atk will be hydra and fireball as 2nd after hydras are out what should my fcr be. thx.
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silent_pvp
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 136 BNet Acct/Realm: USeast NL *silent_pvp3 *silent_pvp6 *silent_pvp7
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:05 pm Post subject:
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i wouldn't suggest using hydra because of the weak damage. instead jus make a fireball sorc, i think it will do much better.
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D00m
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject:
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im not losing all that much damage and i can use hydras in sted of putting it in meteor that u dont use all that much ( yes i know its a syn for fireball)
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MysticFalcon182
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 849 BNet Acct/Realm: Retired
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject:
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Actually... I was playing around with the skill planner.
Helm: +2 Fire Skills
Amulet: +2 Fire Skills
Orb: +2 Fire Skills, +3 Hydra, +3 Fire Mastery
Armor: Vipermagi +1 All
Shield: Visceraunt +1 Sorc
Gloves: Magefist +1 Fire
Rings: SOJ +2 All
Belt: Crafted/Rare
Boots: Sander's
Total:
+7 Fire
+4 All
+3 Hydra
+3 Fire Mastery
1 Warmth (Prereq)
1 Enchant (Prereq)
1 Hydra
8 Fire Bolt (Synergy)
20 Fire Ball (Synergy)
1 Fire Mastery
With the + to skills factored in gives:
373-453 Fire Damage per Hydra
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MysticFalcon182
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject:
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It'd be a fun character to use in public dueling games, and if you get it hell rushed, you can get:
428-519 Damage per Hydra
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silent_pvp
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 136 BNet Acct/Realm: USeast NL *silent_pvp3 *silent_pvp6 *silent_pvp7
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject:
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but after pvp penalty and res/mdr there is almost no damage. (where is jerkazoid when u need him )
that gear is pretty hard to come by too. The best use for hydra is to distract your opponent to make him/her easier to hit with fireball. So one point wont hurt much, but just dont expect to kill a real lld with hydra.
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Belarathon
Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 4577 BNet Acct/Realm: east nl
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject:
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I dunno that is pretty good damage. My high lvl mf sorc has 1 into hydra and it only does 300 per head per shot and it beat a high lvl designed for pvp necro pretty quick but he must have had low fire resists. I think 400 max or 500 max hydras could do really well vs melee's who didnt stack to 90 or 95 fire res, but it wouldn't do well vs ranged cause it's too hard to hit with hydra. But I guess that is what the fireball in the build is for.
As for your question d00m: If you ask me, you still need at least the 63%fcr bp if you use hydra/fireball. Cause you will not really be hitting any ranged chars with hydras so you will need to use fb on them and fb would require 63, if not 105%fcr. Bu since you use hydra as main attack then 63% is probably fine. Also I heard somewhere that the speed at which the hydras spit their firebolts depends on how much fcr you have.
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VoicesLLD
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 7401 BNet Acct/Realm: Recovering WoW addict.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:42 am Post subject:
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hydra is weak, therefore its not worth it. low dmg verse pvp and 75 res.
hydra is slow, shoots incredibly slow.
hydra is inaccurate.
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Nosferatu
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Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 590 BNet Acct/Realm: Ladder East
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:43 am Post subject:
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Boom! Tough actin tenactin and voices lays it like it is again.... Pshhhh
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Jerkazoid
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:48 am Post subject:
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Belarathon wrote: |
I heard somewhere that the speed at which the hydras spit their firebolts depends on how much fcr you have. |
its confirmned that thunder strike will fire more often from the more skill points u have..
but i just messed around with Hydra right now it in hell agaisnt fire immune fallens..
0%fcr to 180% fcr, i noticed no change.
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D00m
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 202 BNet Acct/Realm: US East [NL] *j828war2
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:34 am Post subject:
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with all that said i still think im gonna make it... and does everyone think 63% fcr will be good?
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VoicesLLD
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 7401 BNet Acct/Realm: Recovering WoW addict.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:54 pm Post subject:
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hydra, im pretty sure, has a cool down rate. im not 100% sure, but pretty damn sure. so FCR wouldnt really matter, if im right.
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Belarathon
Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 4577 BNet Acct/Realm: east nl
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject:
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It does have a cool down rate, but he needs the 63%fcr to use fireball to take down necs and what not and the 63% for teleport also
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MysticFalcon182
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject:
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Why not just have a nice FCR orb on weapon switch with additional + to Fire Ball?
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