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| Meowbits |
 Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject:
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El oh el @:
| Quote: | | @skulls: I think you entered in the wrong room, pilgrim. It's messy in here. |
Hehehe, pilgrim.
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| Grim04 |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject:
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@BB: Instead of trying to find loopholes in the rules, why not just follow them?
@Meegz: If you actually read Dao's posts, he almost never flames people. Stating facts, isn't a flame.
@Krajee: Do I still hold the record of the most Ball 1's w/o ever going to a Ball 2? 
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| oleo79 |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject:
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Wow I step away frmo my thread for a day or two, come back, and BAM! Make your own damn thread if you wanna flame guys, geez I just wanted a neutral discussion...
@Dao: Bribing krajee/Gheed (unintentionally, as I used to think he was a cool guy) never worked for me. And that was BEFORE he was a mod, too!
@skulls: I think you entered in the wrong room, pilgrim. It's messy in here.
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| skulls |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject:
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oops..uh_o
edit: oleo..yes indeed..i'll just tiptoe out the back way..
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| Meegz ? |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:
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Your history on this site is not what's in question Dao, its your failure to act like someone who's an admin here. If you set a bad example, why the hell should anyone do what you tell them? No one should have to respect the wishes of a hypocrite.
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| OutlawHeaven |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject:
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I don't recall any admins or mods going out of our way to insult other members, and branding labels. You say we're oppressive, unfair, and etc, yet our reactions are dicated by your actions. As I recall, the actions we take are soley dependant on what you do.
In the end, why can't people just swallow their pride and just, not say anything?
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| breakbeatz2 |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:06 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Short version: I don't know why you people think you can do what you want here. |
Well basically when you flame me and my fellow East NL players (or East Coast Whiners Krew as you call us) it makes us want to flame back.
So we flame back after you set the example and we get balled/banned for doing so.
It's really pretty simple.
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| Dao Jones |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:58 am Post subject:
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| breakbeatz2 wrote: |
It would be pretty easy to include language to address repeat offenders, rather than let the mods ban whoever they want without adhering to their own system. |
We can easily update the rules to state that someone with a "Thin Ice" tag is permanently one step away from banning. But really, for all but a few users here that's not necessary. There are very few perpetual malcontents left here.
@Virtuous:  You're not nearly as funny or clever as you think. But go ahead with that, if it makes you happy.
@Meegz: You and I are at opposite ends of the conversation here. You clearly don't seem to follow my logic, and I'm frankly lost in regards to yours.
Let's just look at some facts here, yes?
1. This board is a private entity. "Rules" of any sort are a luxury, not a privilege. Zharous (and by extension, us) can ban anyone we want at any time, for any reason. We don't owe you or anyone anything. I know this sounds cruel and capricious, but it's absolutely true of ANY website ANYWHERE on the internet. You have no "right" or "privilege" to access this site, save what you are given.
2. The mod staff and admins are charged with maintaining the website as we feel it best serves the overall community. The only system of "checks and balances" that exists is Zharous stripping our admin privileges, which he has so far seen fit not to do.
Short version: I don't know why you people think you can do what you want here. You can't. Picking fights with the mod staff would have gotten BB banned off every other website known to man. That he's still here is an example of our tolerance, not our persecution. And if you think I'm "flaming" him, Meegz, then you sure as hell don't know *my* history here.
How many tears was that this time, Virt? 
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| breakbeatz2 |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:38 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | | If people are going to use the lack of a tag as a justification for continued bad behavior, then the deterrent aspect isn't working properly. The admins are responsible for taking steps to curtail the undesired behavior. |
You should change the discipline system so that it doesn't have easily exploitable loopholes.
It would be pretty easy to include language to address repeat offenders, rather than let the mods ban whoever they want without adhering to their own system.
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| Meegz ? |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:45 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | | If people are going to use the lack of a tag as a justification for continued bad behavior, then the deterrent aspect isn't working properly. The admins are responsible for taking steps to curtail the undesired behavior. |
I understand this, what I have a problem with is Dao's continued flaming towards Break, when he knows that if Break responds, he can and will ban him. Its incredibly hypocritical and a bad quality to have in an admin for a web-board.
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| MortisNostre |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:19 am Post subject:
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Any mod/admin can and should operate (when neccessary) under the clause: "If your an asshat, we wont hesistate to baninate, warn, or otherwise bitchslap you with our modsticks"
In other words, subjective moderation is neccessary, and having a moderating team safeguards against personal vendettas.
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| Roy |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject:
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Meegz, the point that Dao is making is that the discipline system here is supposed to work both as (1) a punishment and (2) a deterrent.
If people are going to use the lack of a tag as a justification for continued bad behavior, then the deterrent aspect isn't working properly. The admins are responsible for taking steps to curtail the undesired behavior.
Virtuous, I don't really know where you get off insulting Dao for absolutely no reason, but that's the sort of thing that should get you skipped right to Ball 4. Breakbeatz is at least trying to add to this discussion; you've contributed absolutely nothing.
It's funny how you bitch about subjective moderating, yet you go out of your way to provoke and insult the moderating staff. If anything, your continued presence in this thread suggests that the moderating here isn't nearly subjective enough.
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| Meegz ? |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject:
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Lets see how flawed this is...that wouldnt be attempted assault, that would be intimidation. And I know the law well enough to know that I should tell him to get off my land, he's tresspassing, and that when he doesn't then I can legally beat him because he is holding a weapon (crowbar) that caused me to feel threatened for my safety. So, I wouldn't get arrested, wouldn't get sentenced, and the guy would be in the hospital eating his meals through a straw for a few months, while I'm at home drinking beer and watching TV. Ain't that a bitch for him?
And I know Break's 'history' just fine, that doesn't give you the right to flame him when he can't defend himself just because you don't like him. That's something a bitch would do. Are you saying you're a bitch?
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| Virtuous |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject:
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For those who don't feel like reading through the thread. . .
Dao is whining because breakbeatz hurt his feelings.
I believe I can estimate how many tears were produced by Dao by dividing his word count by 3 and multiplying by 8/9's. . .
Total words: 1725 (Exactly)
Divided by 3: 575
Times 8/9's: ...
I"VE GOT IT!!!
511 tears Daocakes.
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| Dao Jones |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject:
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| Meegz ? wrote: |
@ Dao: I'm glad you admit to being so biased towards one person you will ban them if they 'flame' you while you can sit back and flame them all you want. |
Never denied it. I'm an honest guy, despite claims to the contrary. However, you make it sound like I just pulled some sort of phantom hostility out of my ass, picked BB's name out of a hat, and decided to lay some hate his way. Do you really think he's some persecuted innocent? Do you really think someone who breaks the rules ten times should just be enabled to do it time #11, 12, 13, etc? Are you unaware, or just willfully ignorant of his history here?
Let's say you have proof someone was going to rob your house, and that person shows up to your door, crowbar and loot sack in hand. You know he's there to rob your house. Why? Because he previously told you he was going to rob your house as soon as the cops were out of the area. Let's say you have a baseball bat in your hand. Would you point it at him, and tell him if he enters your house you'll beat him? If you do this, you're guilty of attempted assault. Should the police arrest you? Should the judge sentence you of attempted assault for defending your house?
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